Estates That Never Were.....

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tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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tog said:
tali1 said:
These 800 ones are photoshopped Press photos
Well the thread is Estates that never were! That Cadillac looks shopped as well. Somewhere I have a Photoshopped Bitter SC estate that I did, but can't find it now.

Edited by tog on Thursday 13th January 08:08
It was for info purposes and not a criticism - as the press photos made them look official smile

Carsie

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925 posts

205 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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A couple more for you..


Lancia Design - "Gamma - Just having a dream"

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BMW - "Slamming it man!"

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BMW - "Just horse(ing) around"

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BMC - "This just ain't cricket old chap"

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tog

4,545 posts

229 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Carsie said:
Lancia Design - "Gamma - Just having a dream"

I badly want that fleet.

radlet6

736 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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tali1 said:
47p2 said:
Rover 800 Estate








These 800 ones are photoshopped Press photos
But it begs the question, why did they never make it? Looks quite a handsome beast and probably would have sold well as a mid to high end estate car.

hidetheelephants

24,462 posts

194 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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radlet6 said:
But it begs the question, why did they never make it? Looks quite a handsome beast and probably would have sold well as a mid to high end estate car.
Probably because the boot volume wasn't much bigger than the fastback, which was already vast just like the SD1.

radlet6

736 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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They could have dropped the hatchback and had a car with more usable space.

MarkwG

4,854 posts

190 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Like the Gamma - but the M5 underneath? Unless I've missed something, that's legit, they even came here RHD. Maybe you're thinking of the previous model, the e39? Only one built by BMW, for a BM executive, although there are others, self built, including a beautiful RHD car. The previous e34 M5 was available LHD only as a touring, although again, there are some conversions out there.

ritmo

606 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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Not a one off but worth posting because its called the 'Promiscua'. What were they thinking ?

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Saturday 15th January 2011
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radlet6 said:
tali1 said:
47p2 said:
Rover 800 Estate








These 800 ones are photoshopped Press photos
But it begs the question, why did they never make it? Looks quite a handsome beast and probably would have sold well as a mid to high end estate car.
True- but that's Rover for you - they can't see the bleedin obvious
Iirc there only official big estate was the 75

red_rover

843 posts

221 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Like most things, Rover were constrained by Honda who wouldn't allow them to make an 800 estate. Same with the later 400 (HHR) nee 45 - Rover were not allowed to produce a coupe, estate or convertable.

radlet6

736 posts

175 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Interesting. Do you know why - especially as they did a 400 series estate in the 90's, and they were tied to Honda then?



Edited by radlet6 on Sunday 16th January 16:45

red_rover

843 posts

221 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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radlet6 said:
Interesting. Do you know why - especially as they did a 400 series estate in the 90's, and they were tied to Honda then?
Good question. I presume that because Rover did a lot of development work on the Concerto/R8 and thusly as ajoint effort,Rover had the rights to do what they wanted with it (hence hatchback, saloon, coupe, convertable, estate) where as the HHR was totally Honda (for good and for bad). Rover were allowed to make the saloon but that was it.


Same applied for the 600 as Rover wanted to make it into a coupe but Honda refused it(Rover struggled to even get the licence agreement to let them put the 2.0 turbo in).



Edited by red_rover on Sunday 16th January 17:04

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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red_rover said:
Like most things, Rover were constrained by Honda who wouldn't allow them to make an 800 estate. Same with the later 400 (HHR) nee 45 - Rover were not allowed to produce a coupe, estate or convertable.
But they didn't have any executive estates prior to the 800 either

52classic

2,532 posts

211 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Avon Estate?

Here's my own car which I sold on some years ago. Tailgate was definately Renault 5 and in fact when the pic was taken I was in the process of replacing the Renault bit which suffered rusting much worse than the Jag metal.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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Nick_F said:
For an estate to work you need to have:

Rising waistline
B and C pillars that look like they have come from the same design house
Side glass parallel with the roofline

Get those elements right and the estate will look better than the saloon.
i'd agree with that, the drooping waistlines of the Jag XJ and the P6 Rover spoil it , the P6 estates converted look like their have a 'broken back' to me

Onzlouk

897 posts

196 months

Sunday 16th January 2011
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wink

radlet6

736 posts

175 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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52classic said:


Avon Estate?

Here's my own car which I sold on some years ago. Tailgate was definately Renault 5 and in fact when the pic was taken I was in the process of replacing the Renault bit which suffered rusting much worse than the Jag metal.
Well there's a surprise - who else didn't see that one coming?

radlet6

736 posts

175 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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red_rover said:
radlet6 said:
Interesting. Do you know why - especially as they did a 400 series estate in the 90's, and they were tied to Honda then?
Good question. I presume that because Rover did a lot of development work on the Concerto/R8 and thusly as ajoint effort,Rover had the rights to do what they wanted with it (hence hatchback, saloon, coupe, convertable, estate) where as the HHR was totally Honda (for good and for bad). Rover were allowed to make the saloon but that was it.


Same applied for the 600 as Rover wanted to make it into a coupe but Honda refused it(Rover struggled to even get the licence agreement to let them put the 2.0 turbo in).



Edited by red_rover on Sunday 16th January 17:04
Well you live and learn - thanks for the insight. A 600 coupe would have made a nice car too.

Had a few Rovers in my time a 216 SE 4 door, a 216 GTI 5 door (loved this, 130 bhp and it wasn't dressed up like a tart's boudoir as most GTI's were at the time), 416 SE and more recently a 75 1.8 turbo. Every single one was a good reliable car, I couldn't fault them in any way (well except the 75 which blew a head gasket - twice).

It was a sad day when the company collapsed (especially as I still had a year left to run on my 75's warranty). I have even toyed with the idea of buying a 75 V8 estate for posterity - but the missus won't wear that and a TVR S3 in the garage. frown



Edited by radlet6 on Monday 17th January 19:13

RosscoPCole

3,320 posts

175 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Conian said:
Jonathan Ross has a modern version of this for his missus.

Carsie

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925 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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inkiboo said:
Carsie said:
The Bentley posted by BalmoralG set me thinking - How many different Estate conversions can you think of that were never officially produced. No semantics,- it's just a game smile

Here's a few to kick off -



What's quite amazing is that's my photo!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/inkiboo/2613022473/in...

I wonder who stole it from my Flickr page?
MMMnnnn that's pretty pointed Young Sir, or am I just a little sensitive?

I often say "Google is your friend" - perhaps he's not in your case?

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=ferrari+456+estat...

http://omgpancakes.wordpress.com/category/ferrari-...

http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/ferrari-456...