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BLUETHUNDER said:
Just going off topic.But the U.S military did experiment with putting an M62 Vulcan gattling gun on the M113 APC.The M62 is the type to be found on the F14 Tomcat.
Wasn't really an experiment; more production, the M163:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M163_VADS
JagLover said:
jimmyjimjim said:
Hopefully not; the M-134 7.62mm minigun is possibly a tad heavy - I remember reading a couple of accounts that basically said the military looked at the idea on a few occasions, and decided that it would weigh so much that it wouldn't be portable, and the amount of ammunition you could carry was essentially nothing.
"I let off 200 rounds from the minigun"...well that was the first 2 seconds, what were you firing for the other 30...
I'd rather not carry 3000 rounds, let alone the gun as well!
Any references? Genuinly interested because I also believed it was a real weapon for some time.
True enough, and it certainly doesn't work from a small portable battery. "I let off 200 rounds from the minigun"...well that was the first 2 seconds, what were you firing for the other 30...
I'd rather not carry 3000 rounds, let alone the gun as well!
Any references? Genuinly interested because I also believed it was a real weapon for some time.
Fume Troll said:
How about the good old phaser?
Not the most exciting perhaps, but with more settings than you can shake a tribble at, and probably one of the first "less than lethal" weapons it could qualify as the thinking man's weapon of choice. The Walther PPK for the 2300's.
Cheers,
FT.
Looks more like a glue gun.Not the most exciting perhaps, but with more settings than you can shake a tribble at, and probably one of the first "less than lethal" weapons it could qualify as the thinking man's weapon of choice. The Walther PPK for the 2300's.
Cheers,
FT.
Regards,
Slow.
glazbagun said:
JagLover said:
jimmyjimjim said:
Hopefully not; the M-134 7.62mm minigun is possibly a tad heavy - I remember reading a couple of accounts that basically said the military looked at the idea on a few occasions, and decided that it would weigh so much that it wouldn't be portable, and the amount of ammunition you could carry was essentially nothing.
"I let off 200 rounds from the minigun"...well that was the first 2 seconds, what were you firing for the other 30...
I'd rather not carry 3000 rounds, let alone the gun as well!
Any references? Genuinly interested because I also believed it was a real weapon for some time.
True enough, and it certainly doesn't work from a small portable battery. "I let off 200 rounds from the minigun"...well that was the first 2 seconds, what were you firing for the other 30...
I'd rather not carry 3000 rounds, let alone the gun as well!
Any references? Genuinly interested because I also believed it was a real weapon for some time.
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/...
From IDMB, though I'd heard it from other places, too:
"The weapon that Blain (Jesse Ventura) is using is a minigun. This is a weapon most commonly mounted on the side of a helicopter (or an aircraft carrier) and many, many modifications had to be made to make it usable in the film. It was powered via an electrical cable hidden down the front of Blain's trousers. The firing rate was slowed down to approximately 1/3rd the normal rate of fire, both to reduce consumption of blanks, and to make the spinning of the barrels visible on film. It is rumored that Ventura had to wear a bulletproof vest because of the forceful ejection of spent cartridges, but this is false. Unmodified miniguns eject out of the bottom, with the cases essentially falling out due to the force of gravity. Close examination of the film (especially the scene in which Mac fires the minigun at the fleeing predator, along with the other commandos) show that the ejection of the minigun was not changed."
http://www.montysminiguns.com/MoviePage.htm
Oh, and I almsot forgot- remember the minigun platforms they welded into the corridors in Aliens? I'd love a few on my roof, come the zombie apocalypse.
Blanks produce virtually no recoil compared with firing real rounds. A gatling type mechanism also does not have the usual recoil reducing effect of gas cycled fully automatic guns (such as AK47, M60, etc.).
The mini-guns fire 7.62x51 Nato standard rounds - anyone who has fired a bolt action target rifle round in this calibre knows how big the kick is. Admittedly a minigun is much heavier (reducing felt recoil), but even with a reduced rate of fire, holding the gun how Blain does would result in it rapid pinioning backward with the muzzle firing all of the rounds directly into the ground.
For an example of recoil with real rounds vs blanks, try searching you-tube for people firing Desert Eagle .50's for real...
Love predator and one of my all time favourite movie guns, but as a real non-vehicle mounted gun - forget about it. As other have said, even if the above issues of recoil could be resolved, try picking up 500 rounds of 7.62 Nato, or powering a Gatling from batteries.
Of course, the same gun used in Terminator 2 by Arnie is a different matter as he is a cyborg and could therefore lift the gun, control the recoil and carry the heavy ammo :-D
Best movie weapons for me?
1. Blain minigun in Predator.
2. Aliens pulse rifle
3. AK47 in any film!
4. Barret light .50 in Tremors 2.
5. M4 Carbine used by Val Kilmer in Heat.
6. M249 Squad Automatic Weapon with 200 round drum mag used by Robert De Niro in Ronin.
7. M60 used by Hannibal in the A-team to finish any gun fight with baddies.
thebluebus said:
3doorPete said:
7. M60 used by Hannibal in the A-team to finish any gun fight with baddies.
Is that what they used to blow all those CJ5s up in the air?The smaller stainless steel folding stocked guns they all used (especially Face) were actually 5.56mm chambered M14's (probably made by Ruger) but most people thought they were AK's.
Didn't matter what they shot though - they could never hit anyone - just car tyres and radiators. :-D
Fume Troll said:
Sciroccology said:
AlSharpton said:
APU from the Matrix please.
No, silly, Apu was from The Simpsons.May I nominate:
"Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range"
"Hey, just what you see pal..."
Cheers,
FT.
Sciroccology said:
"You know your weapons buddy, any one of these is ideal for home defence. So er, which shall it be?"
The Terminator: The .45 Long Slide, with laser sighting.
Pawn Shop Clerk: These are brand new; we just got them in. That's a good gun. Just touch the trigger, the beam comes on and you put the red dot where you want the bullet to go. You can't miss. Anything else?
The Terminator: Phased-plasma rifle in the forty watt range
Pawn Shop Clerk: Hey, just what you see, pal
telecat said:
The FN P90 from Stargate SG-1. Started out as a "Personal Defence Weapon" mainly bought as a straight Assault Rifle.
It's a submachine gun, not an assault rifle. Quite accurate for the type and the 50 round clip is handy, but it hasn't got the killing range to use as an assault rifle.Prefer the SIG 550 then G36. If conditions are very harsh, I'll take an AK47.
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