Gym thread - Bodybuilding Vs Military style Circuit Training
Discussion
KingRichard Said...
"You only need to be running an 8.30 pace. ie; 17 minutes to do 2 miles. Bloke I train with has said you should only up the intensity of your runs, not the length of them... basically to limit your chances of injury. He's an ex-para so I kinda believe him over the gym instructors"
This is NOT true. You are much, much, much more likely to get an injury through running by upping the tempo/intesity, rather than just adding a little extra length onto the run.
"You only need to be running an 8.30 pace. ie; 17 minutes to do 2 miles. Bloke I train with has said you should only up the intensity of your runs, not the length of them... basically to limit your chances of injury. He's an ex-para so I kinda believe him over the gym instructors"
This is NOT true. You are much, much, much more likely to get an injury through running by upping the tempo/intesity, rather than just adding a little extra length onto the run.
Edited by tpivette on Tuesday 15th July 09:46
KingRichard said:
skinner05 said:
Well i started the navy seals programme tonight with the running and the press ups etc afterwards and it showed me im not as fit as i thought.
Did the running a bit too quick i think (12.03 minutes for the 2 miles) which then made the press ups quite hard as i felt sick doing them.The sit ups are a killer and i changed it to 3 x 5 sets of pull ups as just 3 x 3 didnt seem enough.Doing the swimming for the first time tomorrow so will see how that goes. Hopefully fitness levels will soar from this point onwards. Think week 6ish could be my limit though due to time constraints
You only need to be running an 8.30 pace. ie; 17 minutes to do 2 miles. Bloke I train with has said you should only up the intensity of your runs, not the length of them... basically to limit your chances of injury. He's an ex-para so I kinda believe him over the gym instructors Did the running a bit too quick i think (12.03 minutes for the 2 miles) which then made the press ups quite hard as i felt sick doing them.The sit ups are a killer and i changed it to 3 x 5 sets of pull ups as just 3 x 3 didnt seem enough.Doing the swimming for the first time tomorrow so will see how that goes. Hopefully fitness levels will soar from this point onwards. Think week 6ish could be my limit though due to time constraints
So basically you try and run 2.1 Miles in your 17 minute slot, then 2.2 the next week etc.
Increasing length will increase endurance.
Just make sure you are well warmed up for the 'intense' bit.
Just read the whole of the thread and i am also very interested in giving the military training a go, i used to do a lot of body building and that i find gets very boring after a while (with all the eating patterns that you need to do to gain muscle) plus you have to do the whole lot in a gym and with the summer on its way i think it would be much nicer to go for a swim surrounded by hot women in bikinis rather than in the gym with a load of sweaty blokes in the gym
Now i just need to think of an alternative to the running part as i really dont enjoy running, think i might try either cycling or using a rowing machine, any suggestions as to which would be the best?
Cheers
Now i just need to think of an alternative to the running part as i really dont enjoy running, think i might try either cycling or using a rowing machine, any suggestions as to which would be the best?
Cheers
Funny thread - lots of people talking b
ks.
As I said, military training usualy start when you are in the prime of your life and sets you up for life. It builds a superb overall fitness - strength & endurance in equal measure. You also will be eating 3-4k calories per day and your 'day job' will be physically demanding as well. Your body gets used to it at a highly influential part of your physical development - bone density, tendon & ligament strength, not to mention muscle memory and heart and lung growth and efficiency.
The average that a squaddie gets into this is around 17/18yrs old - Officers a little later due to the education demands.
If you are over 25 and start the same sort of routine, it is going to be a hell of shock to the system! Build it up nice and slow and then the gains will be for keeps and the risk of injury less.
Also, and this is arguably the most important thing here and hopefully I can explain it in 'car terms', you need to keep your body fuelled and serviced. There's no point in trying to get fit (especially aerobic) if you don't eat enough to complete the workouts/sessions/runs to the best of your body's ability - losing weight is all good and well but it needs to be managed and the eating patterns spread out and regular (lose weight quickly and you'll gain it back just as fast) - keep the body fuelled regularly and often with no big meals, lots of smaller ones, and aim for a real general rule of thumb of 40%/40%/20% Carbs, Protiens and Fats.
Body building - as misnomer realy - is important for general work. I don't mean going for the heavy lifts but if you can increase muscle mass it will increase your metabolism (along with regular, small meals) so that you'll be burning fat sitting still (sort of!). It will also help with the strengthening of all the other stuff - bones etc.. but take it slowly.
As has been said, go for the core strength exercises - squats & lifts. Even when you do more isolation stuff - do it standing up or 'free' with bar or dumbbells - they will naturaly bring other core groups into play, how ever little.
It all counts.
Edited to say that there is also some good advice here as well but it can get difficult for someone new to the game to work out which is which.
ks.As I said, military training usualy start when you are in the prime of your life and sets you up for life. It builds a superb overall fitness - strength & endurance in equal measure. You also will be eating 3-4k calories per day and your 'day job' will be physically demanding as well. Your body gets used to it at a highly influential part of your physical development - bone density, tendon & ligament strength, not to mention muscle memory and heart and lung growth and efficiency.
The average that a squaddie gets into this is around 17/18yrs old - Officers a little later due to the education demands.
If you are over 25 and start the same sort of routine, it is going to be a hell of shock to the system! Build it up nice and slow and then the gains will be for keeps and the risk of injury less.
Also, and this is arguably the most important thing here and hopefully I can explain it in 'car terms', you need to keep your body fuelled and serviced. There's no point in trying to get fit (especially aerobic) if you don't eat enough to complete the workouts/sessions/runs to the best of your body's ability - losing weight is all good and well but it needs to be managed and the eating patterns spread out and regular (lose weight quickly and you'll gain it back just as fast) - keep the body fuelled regularly and often with no big meals, lots of smaller ones, and aim for a real general rule of thumb of 40%/40%/20% Carbs, Protiens and Fats.
Body building - as misnomer realy - is important for general work. I don't mean going for the heavy lifts but if you can increase muscle mass it will increase your metabolism (along with regular, small meals) so that you'll be burning fat sitting still (sort of!). It will also help with the strengthening of all the other stuff - bones etc.. but take it slowly.
As has been said, go for the core strength exercises - squats & lifts. Even when you do more isolation stuff - do it standing up or 'free' with bar or dumbbells - they will naturaly bring other core groups into play, how ever little.
It all counts.
Edited to say that there is also some good advice here as well but it can get difficult for someone new to the game to work out which is which.
Edited by Asterix on Wednesday 16th July 00:11
Bushmaster said:
Alex12 said:
i am very interested in giving the military training a go
Alex12 said:
i really dont enjoy running
Er, is it just me?As has already been stated by the previous member, there is a whole lot of b
ks being posted, however...tis' a funny read. Well done.MonkeyVR6 said:
Bushmaster said:
Alex12 said:
i am very interested in giving the military training a go
Alex12 said:
i really dont enjoy running
Er, is it just me?As has already been stated by the previous member, there is a whole lot of b
ks being posted, however...tis' a funny read. Well done.g navy seals SONMy point still stands, if you don't like running, then don't try ANYTHING military.
Apart from this of course:
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/880914/Ultimate-For...
Enjoy it.
Apart from this of course:
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/880914/Ultimate-For...
Enjoy it.
MonkeyVR6 said:
My point still stands, if you don't like running, then don't try ANYTHING military.
Apart from this of course:
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/880914/Ultimate-For...
Enjoy it.
Well during my previous weight training experiance i have always been under the impression that you can always customise a training plan to suit the trainee/ trainee's lifestyle and since the whole point of me training is to improve my personal fitness nothing more than that, what difference does it make to you if i customise the plan that has previously been posted to best suit me?Apart from this of course:
http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/880914/Ultimate-For...
Enjoy it.
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