Barbour Jackets - how waterproof?
Discussion
J111 said:
Asterix said:
J111 said:
Asterix said:
J111 said:
I agree. On a warm wet day a waxed jacket is a pretty sticky place to be, and they don't dry quickly. There are also advantages to being able to chuck your jacket in the washing machine, and your other half may appreciate the fact that, unlike a wax jacket, it won't smell like wet dog.
Surely you dry it on your Aga?As far as how they look - I think a battered Barbour is a wondeful thing with loads of character - However, I agree with a new one - all stiff and cardboardy (another new word for the day!).
Sciroccology said:
Drizabone? Had one a few years back (before I lost it, grrrr) and it was brilliant at braving the elephants.
I noticed barbour do a similar version, and a lot of people rate barbour quite highly.
Re the other post, regarding why not get another goretex or similar. All these garments are not that waterproof. The manufacturers put too many zips and seams in them and they all leak in really bad weather - I'm in the our local Mountain Rescue team and between us we've probably tried nearly every make and they all leak. In really bad weather most of us just wear two shells which is about as waterproof as you're going to get and still retain some level of breathability. The only exception that any of us has found is Helly Hansen sailing gear (which is too heavy).
Therefore, I fancied a change, and given that it's the dogs that do the strenuous exercise and not me, I fancied a Stockman style coat so at least most of my legs stayed dry.
BoRED S2upid said:
Sciroccology said:
How do you loose something that big?. Oh, and it's "lose", by the way
rhinochopig said:
Sciroccology said:
That was what I was going to get until I had a look for reviews on it. I only found one, and to paraphrase it said it was rubbish.And I'm not suggesting that they would make great "flasher macs". Although they probably would.
Quinny said:
Digga said:
What about a Belstaff?
Now you're talkingBut have you seen the price of classic Belstaff Trialmasters on ebay
I must have thrown half a dozen away over the years
http://www.belstaff.net/index.php?option=com_virtu...
Sciroccology said:
rhinochopig said:
Sciroccology said:
That was what I was going to get until I had a look for reviews on it. I only found one, and to paraphrase it said it was rubbish.And I'm not suggesting that they would make great "flasher macs". Although they probably would.
dave_s13 said:
Fivepercent said:
I may be wrong but Goretex isn't a coating, it's an actual material. And, if you put it through the washing machine it regains it's factory fresh waterproofness too - in fact that's what Goretex recomend in terms of keeping it working.In a similar vein anything made with eVent fabric will be good.
FWIW I've got a rather nice North Face Goretex snowboarding shell and it is amazingly good quality (cost 100 quid off ebay america- £450 new!! - it was a lucky find).
Wax jackets are not very water proof when compared to Goretex.
If you are using it to withstand sever weather i would go for one of the new goretex barbour jackets that will perform better.
If you are just walking the dog in the rain for 30mins or so then the wax jacket will be fine.
When comparing price and performance I would go for the goretex everytime.
If you are using it to withstand sever weather i would go for one of the new goretex barbour jackets that will perform better.
If you are just walking the dog in the rain for 30mins or so then the wax jacket will be fine.
When comparing price and performance I would go for the goretex everytime.
rhinochopig said:
Have you seen some of their new jackets though - they look they've been designed by Gay Nazis. I refer you to the "Dark Trench". The city coat looks ok, but is too smart for what I want.
http://www.belstaff.net/index.php?option=com_virtu...
"Your page is blocked due to a security policy that prohibits access to categoryhttp://www.belstaff.net/index.php?option=com_virtu...
Glamour & Intimate Apparel."
WTF???
JonRB said:
rhinochopig said:
Have you seen some of their new jackets though - they look they've been designed by Gay Nazis. I refer you to the "Dark Trench". The city coat looks ok, but is too smart for what I want.
http://www.belstaff.net/index.php?option=com_virtu...
"Your page is blocked due to a security policy that prohibits access to categoryhttp://www.belstaff.net/index.php?option=com_virtu...
Glamour & Intimate Apparel."
WTF???
Well there you go, I told you some of the jackets looked like they'd been designed by Gay Nazis
Fivepercent said:
dave_s13 said:
Fivepercent said:
I may be wrong but Goretex isn't a coating, it's an actual material. And, if you put it through the washing machine it regains it's factory fresh waterproofness too - in fact that's what Goretex recomend in terms of keeping it working.In a similar vein anything made with eVent fabric will be good.
FWIW I've got a rather nice North Face Goretex snowboarding shell and it is amazingly good quality (cost 100 quid off ebay america- £450 new!! - it was a lucky find).
Goretex is made pretty much as you describe IIRC. A sheet of goretex on its own will be perfectly waterproof and breathable but not very strong, hence it is normally bonded to a tougher shell fabric. Heavier-weight jackets will have an absorbent fabric lining as well to wick up sweat moisture that hasn't yet escaped through the goretex layer.
Calling it a "coating" implies in most people's minds that it's something you can spray on or dip the fabric into to make it waterproof, whereas in fact the goretex layer is one of the constituent parts of the construction of the jacket; calling it a "fabric" (whilst not being strictly accurate) gives a much better understanding of how it actually works.
Most waterproof coatings (such as wax, in the case of a Barbour) wear off and need to be re-applied, whereas goretex just needs to be washed in order to unblock the pores and thus restore its breatheability (if that's even a word!).
BoRED S2upid said:
BigLepton said:
Mine is very waterproof, though you do get a little tin of wax to re-waterproof it every so often. The big pockets at the bottom are so waterproof that when you put shot rabbits in them, no blood escapes so they have little blood drain holes to let it out.
HTH
Nice image. HTH
Blood drain holes what a selling point.
I bet you'd eat the rabbit stew I made out of them too!
Fivepercent said:
Barbour make or have made 2 Ventile jackets.
The Endurance and the Arctic Endurance.
They will be expensive but will be the business.
And in reply to your original question they will be waterproof to immersion standards.
I appreciate the effort searching for that, but I have to say it conjures images of Dwayne Dibly - Tad too trainspotterish.The Endurance and the Arctic Endurance.
They will be expensive but will be the business.
And in reply to your original question they will be waterproof to immersion standards.
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