French speeding tickets being sent UK licence holders
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leyorkie said:
Posts from atglaw and Breadvan72 in the General Gassing section say that the French authorities can
request details from DVLA despite all we’ve seen in the press.
They are quoting from the legislation.
Also the Trade Agreement. It's very clear on the point. I cited the legislation earlier in this thread.request details from DVLA despite all we’ve seen in the press.
They are quoting from the legislation.
Breadvan72 said:
To make it clear: If France wishes to, it can ask the UK for info to enforce a speeding charge. It is up to France whether or not to do so. The UK has agreed with the EU that info sharing can continue.
From todays Daily Telegraph, the final paragraph suggests that British drivers are unlikely to get speeding tickets from EU countries:-WITH the Brexit transition period over, drivers from the EU will escape fines for speeding on British roads unless they are caught “there and then”, a police chief has admitted.
Chief Constable Sir David Thompson said: “If we do enforce speeding fines they are going to need to be done by traffic officers on the road – and where a ticket or prosecution takes place – there and then, at the time.”
Sir David, who heads West Midlands Police – one of the largest forces in England – added: “From now onwards we are unable to do that (issue a speeding ticket) without actually catching people there and then.”
Bottle of Nando’s sauce confiscated at border
A British man who carried Nando’s Peri-Peri sauce from Gibraltar into Spain was stopped on the border and stripped of it. Joseph Lathey lives in La Línea de la Concepción and went over the border for some British groceries. But Spanish guards stripped him of the hot sauce as it contained processed vegetables. Gibraltar left the EU’s Single Market with the UK on Dec 31, which means stricter border controls on some foods that are no longer subject to EU safety standards.
He was answering questions from the West Midlands’ Labour police and crime commissioner (PCC) on post-Brexit policing arrangements, following the end of the transition agreement on January 1.
David Jamieson, the PCC, said the new arrangements reminded him of concerns held in the early 2000s about “large numbers of EU drivers” escaping UK speeding fines, when he was a transport minister in Tony’s Blair’s government. Mr Jamieson said: “It does look as though we are moving back into that zone now, where these fines can’t be enforced and I think that’s very unfortunate indeed.”
The European Union cross-border enforcement directive had allowed information-sharing between the UK and the EU, which meant speeding drivers could be contacted when they left the country in which the offence happened.
The directive meant drivers caught speeding in a different member state could be fined up to a year afterwards.
But the rule is no longer in place after the end of the transition period, meaning it is unlikely speeding drivers from EU states will be fined once they leave the UK. Likewise, British drivers are unlikely to be given a ticket for speeding in an EU country, once they leave a member state.
Breadvan72 said:
Police officers rarely know the law! See the lockdown rules for examples of that. The Chief Constable has it wrong.
The lockdown rules certainly back up what your saying, local police are still getting it wrong. I would have expected a Chief Constable to know better though or at least check with their lawyers first to make sure they have it right.I have done a bit of digging around, and it appears that the source of the press reports may be that there is a pause pending implementation of the passages in the Trade Agreement that provide for cross border information sharing as to registered keeper. The press has in the usual not very accurate way bigged this up to the system being abandoned altogether.
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