Hennesy Venom vs Lotus Exige

[the ronin]

Full Interior, roof, splitter, diffuser, mirrors, canards, flairs are carbon fiber..

[spoed]

the ronin said:

I think you could put together a car like mine for under $120k. That is custom body and full tilt engine gearbox setup... I know the peeps that could put it together since I've done all the R$D... Start out with a used car and it would be much less..
Remember I've been screwin with this as soon as I got it home new in 05.

Check out www.Lotussport.org if you want to know the nuts and bolts of my car..
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As for poppin down to Hennessey's it would be a waste of time for me in LA traffic to see a Lotus that will never be driven in anger in the twisties....
The fact remains he pussied out because he knows his car won't live up to all the HYPE... and I seriously doubt it could even stay in its own lane in the canyons..... I have my rocket pig dialed in for the real world as far as the suspension goes and I know I've got the power dialed in.... 615 real WHP not BS.

It would be a great David vs Goliath match and I have guys wanting to video it but Goliath seems to be a unick..

I have been trying to see your car at lotussport but cant find it. Would like to see what all youve done. Still there/

[the ronin]

Everything is there just join in and ask...

Here is a little cruise I did this afternoon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXBxWCEVhM&fea...

Funny I never saw the Hennessey in the canyons...

[Scrambled]

Frank, looks like he's got the straight line speed resolved. Now we need an idea on handling. Shame you didn't take upthe off first time.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[cheddar]

the ronin said:

Everything is there just join in and ask...

Here is a little cruise I did this afternoon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZXBxWCEVhM&fea...

Funny I never saw the Hennessey in the canyons..

That's because it was doing 215mph about 50 miles ahead of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzwsPeANzQ

[the ronin]

I never said it wouldn't be fast in a straight line but if you believe the Lotus speedo to be acurate you don't own a Lotus...
Still who buys a Lotus to go straight ? Not me..
I still wanna see if he can run through the twisties with me with that power and no downforce....

[pacman1]

cheddar said:

That's because it was doing 215mph about 50 miles ahead of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzwsPeANzQ

Further discussion here.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

Edited by pacman1 on Monday 12th September 16:01

[the ronin]

cheddar said:

That's because it was doing 215mph about 50 miles ahead of you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jzwsPeANzQ

What a bunch of BS....

Let's just see that hunk a junk on a real road...

Maybe something like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsCGq2bnBs

[Forbes82]

the ronin said:

I never said it wouldn't be fast in a straight line but if you believe the Lotus speedo to be acurate you don't own a Lotus...
Still who buys a Lotus to go straight ? Not me..
I still wanna see if he can run through the twisties with me with that power and no downforce....

Out of interest do you ever take your car to a track? I would imagine both of you would be so overpowered that a drive on public roads couldn't prove much. I'd like to see the true potential of your car but thats never going to be shown by a trip on some public roads.

Not having a go, i imagine your car could and would set some astonishing lap times, but its somewhat frustrating to see someone push an exige to the limits of development, but then never produce some measure of its performance to see exactly how far up the supercar ladder it can punch.

[the ronin]

Forbes82 said:

the ronin said:

I never said it wouldn't be fast in a straight line but if you believe the Lotus speedo to be acurate you don't own a Lotus...
Still who buys a Lotus to go straight ? Not me..
I still wanna see if he can run through the twisties with me with that power and no downforce....

Out of interest do you ever take your car to a track? I would imagine both of you would be so overpowered that a drive on public roads couldn't prove much. I'd like to see the true potential of your car but thats never going to be shown by a trip on some public roads.

Not having a go, i imagine your car could and would set some astonishing lap times, but its somewhat frustrating to see someone push an exige to the limits of development, but then never produce some measure of its performance to see exactly how far up the supercar ladder it can punch.

I took it to the track when it was only 290 whp and it was and still is the fastest Lotus at Willow Springs Raceway 4 yrs. later...
I bought a sportscar not a racecar and pushing it to its limit only means you will find it and I have no desire to kill myself or wreck my car.
This is what I believe the Lotus was built for..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsCGq2bnBs That's 7.5 mi. in 6:43 min. without pushin it....

Making the car completely over powered without useable downforce makes the car a disaster looking for a place to happen. My car is not over powered or unbalanced for the real world...

Hennesey will never come up for a little canyon run because he knows that he screwed up all the best things about a Lotus..If anyone thinks the Hennessey is a "supercar" they should ask to see the Hennessey at the Ring or in the canyons and let the videos tell the truth...

Edited by the ronin on Monday 19th September 14:30

[Forbes82]

the ronin said:

I took it to the track when it was only 290 whp and it was and still is the fastest Lotus at Willow Springs Raceway 4 yrs. later...
I bought a sportscar not a racecar and pushing it to its limit only means you will find it and I have no desire to kill myself or wreck my car.
This is what I believe the Lotus was built for..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsCGq2bnBs That's 7.5 mi. in 6:43 min. without pushin it....

Making the car completely over powered without useable downforce makes the car a disaster looking for a place to happen. My car is not over powered or unbalanced for the real world...

Hennesey will never come up for a little canyon run because he knows that he screwed up all the best things about a Lotus..If anyone thinks the Hennessey is a "supercar" they should ask to see the Hennessey at the Ring or in the canyons and let the videos tell the truth...

Edited by the ronin on Monday 19th September 14:30

Ok fair enough, i do disagree that getting a representative time out of it means you have to wreak the car or yourself. I guess im not sure of all that power if it is never used, i'd love to see how a truely powerful exige is against the modern supercars of this world as i think its a great chassis, so its frustrating to see someone go to all this work and produce an outstanding machine, only for it to never prove itself.

To be honest a run on public roads in cars this powerful would never prove anything, other than who is willing to break the laws and endanger others the most, a track day with the same driver driving both cars however would prove everything, and with the laptimes you car would likely produce would make a few people sit up and take notice.

[the ronin]

Forbes82 said:

Ok fair enough, i do disagree that getting a representative time out of it means you have to wreak the car or yourself. I guess im not sure of all that power if it is never used, i'd love to see how a truely powerful exige is against the modern supercars of this world as i think its a great chassis, so its frustrating to see someone go to all this work and produce an outstanding machine, only for it to never prove itself.

To be honest a run on public roads in cars this powerful would never prove anything, other than who is willing to break the laws and endanger others the most, a track day with the same driver driving both cars however would prove everything, and with the laptimes you car would likely produce would make a few people sit up and take notice.

If I wanted a track I would have bought a Radical but I bought a sportscar..... I see these so called supercars every weekend here in So. Cal. and I have never seen one driven as hard as the average Miata in the canyons... They are only "super" in cost of ownership.... Because a manufacture can make a mega power mega buck car and take it to the "RING" with a pro driver to post a staggering lap time the owner will never be able to achieve is a joke. The owners of these cars would never put them selves or their cars at risk.. Going straight to 200 mph is a joke...As much as it is going 193mph in an Exige when all you can think about is how far your head will travel down the road when the car disintegrates...

I'd like to see Hennessey to take his Lotus to Willow Springs raceway and post a "real" lap time since it is a track designed for high horsepower..... He won't..

The Hennessey would wreck its self in the canyons....

[Forbes82]

the ronin said:

If I wanted a track I would have bought a Radical but I bought a sportscar..... I see these so called supercars every weekend here in So. Cal. and I have never seen one driven as hard as the average Miata in the canyons... They are only "super" in cost of ownership.... Because a manufacture can make a mega power mega buck car and take it to the "RING" with a pro driver to post a staggering lap time the owner will never be able to achieve is a joke. The owners of these cars would never put them selves or their cars at risk.. Going straight to 200 mph is a joke...As much as it is going 193mph in an Exige when all you can think about is how far your head will travel down the road when the car disintegrates...

I'd like to see Hennessey to take his Lotus to Willow Springs raceway and post a "real" lap time since it is a track designed for high horsepower..... He won't..

The Hennessey would wreck its self in the canyons....

Ok, fair enough. I would hope that at some stage the Hennessey Venom would see a track, i am quite keen to see how it does as horsepower and dyno boasts on the internet really mean very little.

[the ronin]

This hoser makes me smile.....

Introducing the Venom GT Spyder
Texas Supercar Goes Topless for 2013

SEALY, TEXAS - Hennessey Performance (HPE) will offer it's ultra lightweight supercar with a removable roof. Dubbed the Venom GT Spyder, Hennessey's 1200 horsepower, 1200 kilo, mid-engine monster will offer an extra dose of wind and sound when driven without the top.

"With the hardtop in place, the Venom GT offers a very visceral, raw, driving experience", says company CEO, Don Goldman. "With the hardtop removed, the wind and the growl of the twin turbo V8 will offer our clients an even greater driving sensation."

HPE will build just five Venom GTs for the 2013 model year, two of which have already been ordered. Deliveries will begin in the summer of 2012. Clients can purchase either model: the Venom GT - with a fixed hardtop roof, or the Venom GT Spyder - with the new removable top. Base pricing for the Venom GT is $950,000. The Venom GT Spyder is priced at $1.1 million.

"We are excited to be able to offer an open-air American supercar, built in Texas, that provides the best power to weight ratio available on the market," says company founder, John Hennessey. "Simply put, the Venom GT Spyder is defined by its simplicity, elegance, performance and - for a lucky few - a driving experience like nothing else on Earth."




That's right step up and pay an additional $150,000.00 for a removable top that was always removable....

[Loudman]

Hmmmmm, I like the wheels, reckon my Elise would like nice with those.

Anyone tried the Elise roof at 200mph+?

[GTRene]

wow what a nice picture and what does that car looks awesome...(not the more then a million awesome but nice nonetheless)

I think that hardtop will be different then the standard Lotus Item, it must have very good clips/system (or how you name those) and I guess also different underside with those roll bars on that car?

[the ronin]

Did you not read it's $150,000,00 more for a removable top that is already there....duhh

Edited by the ronin on Thursday 1st December 17:05

[GTRene]

the ronin said:

Did you not read it's $150,000,00 more for a removable top that is already there....duhh

yes but I think they changed more things then just making a normal S2 Exige topless

but for that 150K (roof stuff) I rather have 2 new Exige S V6 in black please

[the ronin]

Yeah they put in the Elise bow stay recivers in the rear edge... I have the same

[Oilchange]

It's a hell of a wedge to pay on top but I suspect there are rich enough people out there to want one...