Lotus Exige V6 SC (Exige (S3?) - New Elise SC
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andy_s said:
37 litre tank = about 10 gallons, @25mpg = 250 miles; @10mpg = 100 miles. I think they must have meant "100 mile range on track" surely?
10 gallons would be 45.5 litres, so it's closer to 8.5 gallons - but you'd still expect 200 miles or so, particularly when you add in the couple of litres to ends up in the filler pipe if you brim it.Anything will go through fuel at a rapid rate on track though. Managed to use about 3/4's of a tank in 90 miles around Snetterton in a boggo K-series.
I've checked the fuel consumption figures of the various "long term road test" Evora S that are out on loan to the press, they all seem to manage around 19mpg, so maybe as the Exige is lighter it may be slightly more economical, but it looks as though it may be more "draggy" than the purer shaped Evora, so perhaps the same sort of figure on the road. I'm guessing the Evora S is uneconomical because it's a pretty old engine , without the benefits of direct injection for example.
The upshot is that to be realistically useable on road or track, a bigger tank needs to be made available. There were some posts saying that a second tank was an option, but I can't find anything about it on the Lotus web site.
The upshot is that to be realistically useable on road or track, a bigger tank needs to be made available. There were some posts saying that a second tank was an option, but I can't find anything about it on the Lotus web site.
A 70 litre FIA approved tank is listed as an option for the Exige V6 Cup Track Day spec: http://www.seloc.org/2012/08/lotus-racing-exige-v6...
Most Evora owners I've heard from say mid-20's for the Evora S in the real world mixed conditions - 30mpg+ possible on the motorway.
The Exige has a higher drag co-efficient than the Evora, but a smaller frontal area. The quoted fuel economy figures are SLIGHTLY lower but only by about 0.5-10mpg
http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/our-cars/current-range...
http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/our-cars/current-range...
Most Evora owners I've heard from say mid-20's for the Evora S in the real world mixed conditions - 30mpg+ possible on the motorway.
The Exige has a higher drag co-efficient than the Evora, but a smaller frontal area. The quoted fuel economy figures are SLIGHTLY lower but only by about 0.5-10mpg
http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/our-cars/current-range...
http://www.lotuscars.com/gb/our-cars/current-range...
These are the official figures from the Exige S brochure on the Lotus website -
Fuel Consumption (mpg (l/100km))
Urban 19.5 (14.5)
Extra urban 37.2 (7.6)
Combined 28.0 (10.1)
CO2 emissions (g/km) 236
And no, its not available everywhere. As has been debated elsewhere it isn't type approved for road use in the USA but I believe it can be imported for track use.
Fuel Consumption (mpg (l/100km))
Urban 19.5 (14.5)
Extra urban 37.2 (7.6)
Combined 28.0 (10.1)
CO2 emissions (g/km) 236
And no, its not available everywhere. As has been debated elsewhere it isn't type approved for road use in the USA but I believe it can be imported for track use.
I would doubt this will be significantly different to the current car. In my experience that means:
- stop every 200 - 250 miles for fuel when doing long trips
- fill up before track day, and again during the lunch break.
In both cases you'd be wise to take a stop/ break anyway. In practice, unless you have some kind of petrol pump phobia, it's no issue.
- stop every 200 - 250 miles for fuel when doing long trips
- fill up before track day, and again during the lunch break.
In both cases you'd be wise to take a stop/ break anyway. In practice, unless you have some kind of petrol pump phobia, it's no issue.
bobo said:
surely its hardly a car you actually want to sit in for more than 2 hours anyway ?
leave that to limpwrited boxter brigade and their man bags, creams and electric steering.
Shouldn't be too much of an issue. I've 400 miles in an Elise only stopping for a few minutes to refuel in the past - and that was when I had the original 'church pew' seats in it rather than the nice Pro-bax ones I have now.leave that to limpwrited boxter brigade and their man bags, creams and electric steering.
Exige V6 I drove was a far nicer place to be than my S1 Elise on a long drive as you have a/c, a working heater, audible stereo, etc.
As both a "manly" Lotus driver and a "limp wrist" Porsche driver, that drives on an awful lot of track days and races often a long way from home, I just hate cars with small fuel tanks. Particularly on for example a trip to the Nurburgring, stopping for fuel too often is to be avoided at all costs, European services are notoriously slow. Typically at the 'Ring on a busy weekend, you wouldn't get many laps with a 47 litre tank in anything, then you have to suffer the queuing at the Fuel Station, then the queuing to get back into the circuit. In this situation , little gets close to beating an elderly, naturally aspirated Porsche, with a 92 litre tank !
The problem for me, which I experience often in my Caterham, is the anxiety of running low on fuel, after I've covered a hundred miles , my mind is increasingly worrying about finding a filling station. Maybe it's just me ?
The problem for me, which I experience often in my Caterham, is the anxiety of running low on fuel, after I've covered a hundred miles , my mind is increasingly worrying about finding a filling station. Maybe it's just me ?
im with you on all that.....
ravon said:
As both a "manly" Lotus driver and a "limp wrist" Porsche driver, that drives on an awful lot of track days and races often a long way from home, I just hate cars with small fuel tanks. Particularly on for example a trip to the Nurburgring, stopping for fuel too often is to be avoided at all costs, European services are notoriously slow. Typically at the 'Ring on a busy weekend, you wouldn't get many laps with a 47 litre tank in anything, then you have to suffer the queuing at the Fuel Station, then the queuing to get back into the circuit. In this situation , little gets close to beating an elderly, naturally aspirated Porsche, with a 92 litre tank !
The problem for me, which I experience often in my Caterham, is the anxiety of running low on fuel, after I've covered a hundred miles , my mind is increasingly worrying about finding a filling station. Maybe it's just me ?
The problem for me, which I experience often in my Caterham, is the anxiety of running low on fuel, after I've covered a hundred miles , my mind is increasingly worrying about finding a filling station. Maybe it's just me ?
ravon said:
As both a "manly" Lotus driver and a "limp wrist" Porsche driver, that drives on an awful lot of track days and races often a long way from home, I just hate cars with small fuel tanks. Particularly on for example a trip to the Nurburgring, stopping for fuel too often is to be avoided at all costs, European services are notoriously slow. Typically at the 'Ring on a busy weekend, you wouldn't get many laps with a 47 litre tank in anything, then you have to suffer the queuing at the Fuel Station, then the queuing to get back into the circuit. In this situation , little gets close to beating an elderly, naturally aspirated Porsche, with a 92 litre tank !
The problem for me, which I experience often in my Caterham, is the anxiety of running low on fuel, after I've covered a hundred miles , my mind is increasingly worrying about finding a filling station. Maybe it's just me ?
Whilst I do agree with you - the small tank is in most circumstances bl**dy annoying - at least in my Elise (NA, less power, etc. etc.) at the 'ring you can get 10 laps to a 36 litre tank. I've now fitted a 48 litre tank so should be even better.The problem for me, which I experience often in my Caterham, is the anxiety of running low on fuel, after I've covered a hundred miles , my mind is increasingly worrying about finding a filling station. Maybe it's just me ?
The real pain is the journey over, whilst all my mates in GT3s are ticking over at minimum revs in 6th gear using (relatively) hardly any fuel, the Elise still needs a fill up every 200-ish miles.
The difference between cruising consumption and on track consumption seems relatively small with the Lotus whereas with a Porsche its massive.
tertius said:
The real pain is the journey over, whilst all my mates in GT3s are ticking over at minimum revs in 6th gear using (relatively) hardly any fuel, the Elise still needs a fill up every 200-ish miles.
What kind of power and gearbox are you running? I did Swindon to the Scottish border (bang on 300 miles) in one tank - but that's just a pretty standard K-series and a C6BP box.Thorburn said:
tertius said:
The real pain is the journey over, whilst all my mates in GT3s are ticking over at minimum revs in 6th gear using (relatively) hardly any fuel, the Elise still needs a fill up every 200-ish miles.
What kind of power and gearbox are you running? I did Swindon to the Scottish border (bang on 300 miles) in one tank - but that's just a pretty standard K-series and a C6BP box.Thorburn said:
tertius said:
Its a CR box in a 111S, little bit over stock power but not much; however as the route over has sections of de-restricted autobahn it would be a shame not to prove that 7200 rpm is indeed 144 mph ...
Can't imagine a GT3 would be THAT efficient at that speed either. 
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