S2 Elise - but which one?
Discussion
otolith said:
It's a matter of opinion, but personally I think that if you do get the R it's worth having the Lotus motorsport remap or third party equivalent to lower the cam change point a little. You lose a bit of drama at the change point in return for it getting on cam a little earlier and staying on cam if you shift a little shorter.
I also like my 2bular exhaust and TRD intake, but you do trade some refinement for a more exciting noise.
I also like my 2bular exhaust and TRD intake, but you do trade some refinement for a more exciting noise.
agree with the change point, that's on my to do list but at £500ish theres other mods to be done first.
what's consensus on TRD vs something like the hurricane intake?
OP - i have an R and its the only elise i've ever driven. abs and servo brakes weren't what i would have wanted but i'm in the federalised market so no choice really. whilst the power delivery needs tweaking an the gearchange can be poor [i'm getting elise parts engine mount inserts as first stage cure] i think i'd find a lower powered car somewhat lacking.
shirt said:
i think i'd find a lower powered car somewhat lacking.
Bear in mine that whilst the 111S is 30bhp down on the 111R, it's also nearly 100kg lighter so the difference in power to weight ratio is only about 15bhp/tonne. Yes, the 111R is a quicker car but the margin at road speeds isn't as big as the raw power figures would suggest. david000 said:
I'd say the Toyota 1.8 'S' for handling balance. Sublime.
For me the R would make a good track car but less good as a road car. However I use mine as a daily driver so as a Sunday car an R would be fine.
I can't see any reason for the Toyota S to handle differently to the R, it's all the same mechanicals apart from engine and gearbox and just as heavy? Given the similarities of torque curves up to where the S limiter cuts in, couldn't one just short-shift Mon-Fri?For me the R would make a good track car but less good as a road car. However I use mine as a daily driver so as a Sunday car an R would be fine.
Don't think you can go wrong with either. My R was a fantastic car. Loved every minute. Don't get too hooked up on which is the 'perfect car'. Just go for it. Don't forget, an R will be more recent. Whichever car you get you'll have great fun. The sun will be with us soon. Condition, history and price are the main factors. Then Options. Then colour.
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