Early 111S questions

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jellmeister

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9 posts

70 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Hi, I'm new here so hopefully doing this right, apologies if not...
I have had a 52 plate 111S for a couple of years now, but am starting to notice it is a bit different from most, and am keen to find out a couple of things:
1) I have a Cam position with an intermittent fault. My sensor is aft of the black dust cover (i.e. at the rear side of the block), which seems different from the workshop manual which pictures it at the front of the block, under the cover. More annoyingly it is also a different sensor with different connector. An MG specialist recognised my sensor as the same as a TF and suggested I need either a NSC000010slpp (long pin) or a NSC100380 (short pin). Any ideas which I need?
2) I understand that my car isn't alone in having manual windows as other early 111S owners have posted about that before, but I'm not sure I have a high ratio gearbox that I think 111Ss are supposed to have. The car sits at 3,500RPM at 70mph, the same as my 4 speed mini. It also redlines at 130mph on the autobahn, which is the published top speed of the non 111S. However it does have the decals, wheels, diffuser, rear grille, etc. and seems to have plenty of poke up all the way up to the shift light at 7,300ish (never looked exactly, too busy grinning) so I'm pretty sure it is a 111S (V5 also agrees). Do any early 111Ss have different ratios?
3) I have a lotus hard top with an extra central rear clamp to hold it on that others don't seem to have. The roof has a genuine Lotus box with a part number similar to but not quite the same as a normal roof (I don't have box or roof to hand as it is all packed away for the summer, but I can dig it out if needed). Anyone seen one of these before?

smiles1

543 posts

223 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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jellmeister said:
2) I understand that my car isn't alone in having manual windows as other early 111S owners have posted about that before, but I'm not sure I have a high ratio gearbox that I think 111Ss are supposed to have. The car sits at 3,500RPM at 70mph, the same as my 4 speed mini.
If you are seeing 4,000rpm at 80mph in 5th then you have a close ratio gearbox.

jellmeister

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9 posts

70 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Yeah, 4000 @ 80mph. Are any early 111s supposed to have close ratios?

itcaptainslow

3,704 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Does the engine have a rear cambelt cover above the gearbox? (For the VVC cambelt)

If it doesn’t, it’s not a 111S or at the very least has had a non-VVC engine swap...

smiles1

543 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Send me an email with a picture of your engine (or post on here) and I can confirm if it is VVC or not smile


Tickle

4,932 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Could the car be an Elise 111 not a 111s.

Don't think it was released in Europe though, not sure on what box the 111 had.

Bit of info here (2002)

http://www.hazelnet.org/elise/index.htm



Edited by Tickle on Wednesday 25th July 21:48

jellmeister

Original Poster:

9 posts

70 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Hopefully above is a photo of the engine, beta upload so don’t know. V5 says 111S, so hoping not been ripped off

smiles1

543 posts

223 months

Saturday 28th July 2018
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Yes that's a VVC so all good in that respect!

Fitting a close ratio box is a common upgrade to make the most of the engine so if you have one that's definitely a bonus.