Elise 111S or 111r?

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Nickp82

3,189 posts

94 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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My choice is definitely the R. Having had both, I found the cam lift and the noise it made with a sports exhaust endlessly entertaining.

Plus, won’t an S basically feel like your old car but a bit quicker?

Belle427

8,981 posts

234 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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You could maybe tune yours if it made more financial sense, not everyones cup of tea though.
I bought an R earlier in the year and it does make a good noise when revved but i rarely get the chance to get it in that zone on the roads even with the cam switch point lowered.
I dont mind driving it lower down the rev range to be honest, i dont feel it lacking.
I dismissed the S as i didnt really fancy the idea of the K series even though its a good engine and probably the best choice for general road use.
I think i read a comparison where the S was a more pleasant driving experience up to its red line and then the R took over which is obviously understandable but then your into silly speeds.

Gibbo205

3,554 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Hi there

I am also considering an S or an R. The R I understand and get that.

But the S I have some questions, when looking at adverts some seem to say 135HPish and some 155HPish, why is this? Is one a Rover and one Toyota? What model year did they get the Toyota engine and what was the factory power output of the Rover S and Toyota S please?

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Tuesday 6th February
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Gibbo205 said:
Hi there

I am also considering an S or an R. The R I understand and get that.

But the S I have some questions, when looking at adverts some seem to say 135HPish and some 155HPish, why is this? Is one a Rover and one Toyota? What model year did they get the Toyota engine and what was the factory power output of the Rover S and Toyota S please?
The 111S is a Rover K series with variable valve timing and 156bhp sold up to about 2005.

The S badge was later used in around 2008 for a car with a 134bhp 1.8 litre Toyota 1ZZ-FE. That entry level model was later replaced with a 1.6 litre Toyota 1ZR-FAE with similar power, though I can't remember if S badging was ever used on that engine.

The S badge was used one more time from 2011 when it was put on a car with a 1.8 supercharged 2ZR-FE with 217bhp.

2002-2005 Elise 111S - Rover K series - 156bhp
2008 - 2010 Elise S - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - 134bhp
2011 onwards - supercharged Toyota 2ZR-FE - 217bhp

https://wiki.seloc.org/a/Toyota_engines