Engine running hot

Engine running hot

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Lone Star

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138 posts

182 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Zippee said:
I have the Power uprated fans but in this weather will often see 100deg on the water temp, add another 5-8 degrees should I turn the air-con on.
That is all I wanted to hear. I feel much happier knowing that the temperatures I was getting, have been replicated elsewhere. That said, I feel these temperatures are not right and we would have a much happier running engine if there was a way of running them in a cooler condition.

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Zippee said:
The cooling on the T350 is woeful, look at the angle/placement of the rads and the way air is expelled from the engine bay compared to other TVRs (Tuscan owners will note that the same engine they'll see water temps a lot lower than that on the T350). Myself and my mechanic are going to look into a form of front splitter to help try and create a vacuum under the engine to pull air through.
I have the Power uprated fans but in this weather will often see 100deg on the water temp, add another 5-8 degrees should I turn the air-con on.
Sounds like a good idea smile not suffering from heating issues with these mods and original rad smile




alex_gray255

6,313 posts

205 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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It is fairly simple for Paul Smith to correct the dash/ECU temperature difference.

He's doing it for me later this year.

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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I can't see that those fins should make all the difference though. The air can already only travel in one direction from the front intake.

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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I'm no expert but I believe they help direst the air straight to the rad and in a more forceful volume than just hitting a brickwall inside the current opening - the way the air is channelled into the rads/engine and then pulled out of the engine bay on the 350 is not particularly efficient.

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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ShiDevil said:
Sounds like a good idea smile not suffering from heating issues with these mods and original rad smile
That looks promising. never seen something like that. Is that an available after-market kit or did you tweak that yourself?
Would be very interested in how and where i can get some of these flaps!

Basil Brush

5,083 posts

263 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Zippee said:
The cooling on the T350 is woeful, look at the angle/placement of the rads and the way air is expelled from the engine bay compared to other TVRs (Tuscan owners will note that the same engine they'll see water temps a lot lower than that on the T350). Myself and my mechanic are going to look into a form of front splitter to help try and create a vacuum under the engine to pull air through.
I have the Power uprated fans but in this weather will often see 100deg on the water temp, add another 5-8 degrees should I turn the air-con on.
Yes my comments were based on Tuscan experience - I didn't realise the T350 was so borderline on cooling.

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

174 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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RobertoBlanco said:
That looks promising. never seen something like that. Is that an available after-market kit or did you tweak that yourself?
Would be very interested in how and where i can get some of these flaps!
I'm probably going to make these in Carbon soon. There are only a few T350's with these on, including Trevor Jones, some were factory and some afterwards. It does as Tony said, improve the cooling capability as it pushes the air more directly onto the flat rad, although the later T cars don't have much of an issue. The vent underneath the number plate actually provides more cooling, but this was something that the previous owner put in, having tested it on a T350 he used to own with success.

Tony's car is different in that he runs a 4.3, and does need some extra cooling (reason for the rad and upgraded fans), plus it's a slightly earlier car, and mines got a few differences being the later car under the bonnet.

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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ShiDevil said:
I'm probably going to make these in Carbon soon. There are only a few T350's with these on, including Trevor Jones, some were factory and some afterwards. It does as Tony said, improve the cooling capability as it pushes the air more directly onto the flat rad, although the later T cars don't have much of an issue. The vent underneath the number plate actually provides more cooling, but this was something that the previous owner put in, having tested it on a T350 he used to own with success.

Tony's car is different in that he runs a 4.3, and does need some extra cooling (reason for the rad and upgraded fans), plus it's a slightly earlier car, and mines got a few differences being the later car under the bonnet.
Theoretically they should help to get a better airflow to the radiator. But do you think it does the trick? I guess "later T-cars" meaning 2004 onwards?

Is there a way to buy a pair of these on the market? Didn't find them or at least i don't know where to look. Power doesn't have them.

BTW is there something special about the vent below the number plate or is it a plain opening in the bodywork? Would be interested in some pictures. bowsmile

Edited by RobertoBlanco on Friday 26th July 17:28

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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RobertoBlanco said:
Theoretically they should help to get a better airflow to the radiator. But do you think it does the trick? I guess "later T-cars" meaning 2004 onwards?

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My car is a 54 plate, the mod Steve refers to is pretty much just the header/expansion tank. Doesn't really make the any cooler just a little more efficient.

RFC1

1,107 posts

197 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Surely any of these modifications are only of any use when in actual driving/moving situations. They can be of no use when in standing traffic ???? Or am i missing something?

Sandy

Zippee

13,463 posts

234 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Totally correct - the only mod I've had done for standing is the uprated fans from Dom and believe me there is a massive difference in pull of air.

RFC1

1,107 posts

197 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Zippee said:
Totally correct - the only mod I've had done for standing is the uprated fans from Dom and believe me there is a massive difference in pull of air.
That does make sense.!!.

Sandy

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Hmm, ok, than maybe uprated fans would be the way to go if cooling problems arise. Thanks again.

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

174 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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RobertoBlanco said:
Theoretically they should help to get a better airflow to the radiator. But do you think it does the trick? I guess "later T-cars" meaning 2004 onwards?

Is there a way to buy a pair of these on the market? Didn't find them or at least i don't know where to look. Power doesn't have them.

BTW is there something special about the vent below the number plate or is it a plain opening in the bodywork? Would be interested in some pictures. bowsmile

Edited by RobertoBlanco on Friday 26th July 17:28
Well, the vent below the number plate, forces air straight onto the radiator, so even more cooling smile

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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ShiDevil said:
Well, the vent below the number plate, forces air straight onto the radiator, so even more cooling smile
Thanks, Steve. I thought, that probably something would be in the way from the shell to the radiator.
Actually I do not have the motor yet, so therefore the probably stupid question. laugh
Will have a look into this, when i got mine. TBH i'm quite unsure/nervous when it comes to cooling issues, expecially when the S6 is involved (limited knowledge of course).

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

174 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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RobertoBlanco said:
Thanks, Steve. I thought, that probably something would be in the way from the shell to the radiator.
Actually I do not have the motor yet, so therefore the probably stupid question. laugh
Will have a look into this, when i got mine. TBH i'm quite unsure/nervous when it comes to cooling issues, expecially when the S6 is involved (limited knowledge of course).
No need to be worried smile I've driven mine on long road trips been stuck in traffic in all sorts of weather, never skipped a beat. Yes I have a few extra vents, but I think the car would be fine without them anyway. It's not a delicate little flower, just be sensible and it's all good smile I'm more concerned when the car is cold tongue out when it warms up it comes alive wink

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Thanks again, Steve. beer
Hopefully i'll make the same experiences with my new lady when i finally get her.

konrad.holl

267 posts

205 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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RobertoBlanco said:
Would be very interested in how and where i can get some of these flaps!
Hi Robert,

give Trevor Bee ( TET Mouldings ) a try. I think I had contacted him a few years ago regarding these flaps...

Cheers

Konrad

QBee

20,982 posts

144 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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..."new lady"..... ......"about these flaps".......

Are we still in the TVR forum or have I got my websites muddled? confusedlick