And another goes POP!...well cough, rattle.....

[MarkoTVR]

nelly1 said:

For gawds sake stop worrying! Just enjoy the car to its' full. If it blows, it blows! Do you drive around all day worrying if you'll be hit by a truck? Could happen! And it would be a fk site worse than a dodgy follower!

Everything that man said, x1000, in bold and underlined.

[TUS 373]

My philosphy entirely! Not a great consolation to anyone who has needed/is needing a rebuild - but I have other things that worry me more and the Tuscan takes my attention away from them!

I got my Tuscan 3 years ago (2nd hand). I reckon that depreciation and necessary servicing/repairs has cost me £9,000 over that time plus I have spent about £1500-2000 on nice to have upgrades such as the Nitrons. So £3-4K per year. I actually lost more money on a Chimaera over the same period because when it was time to sell, "Chimaeras are too common".

Let's face it - whatever car you have, there will always be someone ready to piss on your bonfire when you come to sell it. My every day car is red and a dealer said it would be hard to shift - if it had been silver, it would be a different story. My sister has a silver car, her dealer said that there are so many silver ones to choose from that the increased competition to sell lowers their value. You can't bloody win.

So, for anyone who wants to live a little - just do what you heart tells you. Don't die regretting never having done things.

My Tuscan is great - if it goes tits up then I will have to cough up for a rebuild, until then I am going to enjoy it as much as I can.

[whitey]

Too right. Warm the bastard up carefully then drive it hard like it's meant to be.

Life is too short to worry about it!

My last re-build was 16,000 miles ago in 2001, it still pulls like a school boy and is yet to suffer a drink problem.

I warm it up properly and never use it on short trips.

cheers
Whitey

[itchy]

whitey said:

... and never use it on short trips.

Why is this relevant? More engine wear per mile?

>> Edited by itchy on Wednesday 6th July 13:42

[whitey]

Yes. No cars like short trips where they are not fully warmed up.

That's why Taxi's the world over do 300,000 miles + as the engines are mostly kept running and hot, not doing lot's of short trips from cold.

Not saying a Speed 6 will do 300,000 miles before a re-build of course

[itchy]

Agreed. I suppose I was alluding to the fact that this engine's woes do not seem to stem from normal wear and tear.

[whitey]

Yes, I am just as careful as I can be with the engine, warm up carefully, no short trips and straight to the dealers if anything does not seem right. Luckily it's a weekend car, so easier to do.

[twobulldogs!]

Is the general consensus that it is worthwhile having TVR Power re-build/repair the engine or not? Confused of Plymouth

[apache]

twobulldogs! said:

Is the general consensus that it is worthwhile having TVR Power re-build/repair the engine or not? Confused of Plymouth

I'd take it to TVR Craft, after all their man designed the thing

[yzf1070]

apache said:

twobulldogs! said: Is the general consensus that it is worthwhile having TVR Power re-build/repair the engine or not? Confused of Plymouth I'd take it to TVR Craft, after all their man designed the thing

EXACTLY...and when you see the difference in the original and the standard TVR supply components you will realise why it has to be a better solution. For anyone having to pay for a fix themselves, going for a like for like rebuild makes absolutely no sense and there is no info forth coming to support it is NOT a like for like repair. More so the opposite, especially when its been reported on here that they have gone pop again. If the factory would come out and make it public that there are revised components available then I would perhaps reconsider my slender options. But the factory have said didley squat about the whole affair.....which in my view is incredibly poor customer relations verging on the surreal.

I was sceptical of the grounds surrounding reported failures until I experienced it for myself, knowing how well I have treat the car. And then the seeing...well thats pointed me and my S6 in one direction, a designer approved solution....This to me is sound pracical judgement, given the options currently available.

Regards

G

[twobulldogs!]

The service manager at the dealer assures me the parts to be fitted are modified and will deal with the previous problems. There seems to be no reason why they would want to increase the grief...do you KNOW different

[justinp1]

twobulldogs! said:

The service manager at the dealer assures me the parts to be fitted are modified and will deal with the previous problems. There seems to be no reason why they would want to increase the grief...do you KNOW different

Err, I think the reason that this issue has got this far is that there are a number of people who have had TVR rebuilds, then found out a year later they needed another. I certainly remember reading this in a number of similar threads.

[twobulldogs!]

does not answer the question, the answer is at best historical, my car's engine en route now

[plug]

twobulldogs! said:

The service manager at the dealer assures me the parts to be fitted are modified and will deal with the previous problems. There seems to be no reason why they would want to increase the grief...do you KNOW different

After my first rebuild I ask my dealer if it could happen again and he told me that it was a possiblity,
I did'nt think it would be so soon, athough a slightly different problem.

[jamessim]

Graham,
Sorry to hear about your woes and I'll look forward to see how your upgrade/fix performs in the future.
Looking at your profile makes me wonder, if once again a car that has been under used prior to you purchasing could be accelerating these issues? my car had only done 900 miles in the first 2 years prior to my purchase, and had loads of faults, thankfully none of them serious with the engine but now seems to be getting better, I'm certainly not under any dillusion that in the near future I could be looking at major costs with gearbox, clutch etc etc, I do think that they are much better for constant and caring/varying use, I will get mines as close to the limit as I can when the opportunity arises.
I also beleive that the residuals after the 3 years of ownership stack up quite well against other marques of this type of performance car IMO.

Best of luck for the future with it.

Regards.

[nelly1]

havoc said:

Scanned this thread...I love the looks, sound and ability of Tiv's, but can't afford to buy or run them, and can't drive well enough yet. But I would make one, i hope valid, point:- Everyone talks about how "cheap" they are for the performance. Yet I would measure the cost of a car in pence-per-mile. e.g Take one 911 (boring and predictable, but everyone's yardstick). This costs ~£20k more than a Tuscan. However, after 3 years of ownership, the 911 hasn't put a foot wrong mechanically, and is still worth 55% of new price...so say £26-27k of depreciation, plus usual running costs. Now take one Tuscan. Cheaper to buy, but after 3 years is worth maybe 50% of new price...so say £20-22k of depreciation. However, in that time the Tuscan has needed one major and one minor engine overhaul, total cost £7-8k. All of a sudden, the Tuscan has cost more over 3 years than the 911. So which now is the cheaper car? (OK, I know, 3.6 still more bhp/tonne than stock 911...but which is quicker cross-country in the hands of an average enthusiast-driver? Bit closer, I suspect.) Just a thought, and please don't flame me for it...

Quick question - Your average Tuscan driver has a semi-permanent smile plastered on his face, and the occasional worry if his engine will rattle more than usual.

Here is a comment taken from a Porsche forum
"Me is too drooling over these pics... Cool combo, yellow and red!"

Who cares about depreciation if this is what happens to your brain once you have a Porker?!?!

[havoc]

nelly1 said:

Quick question - Your average Tuscan driver has a semi-permanent smile plastered on his face, and the occasional worry if his engine will rattle more than usual.

I thought that was a rictus of fear from having to listen constantly to the engine in front of him, waiting for the sound of his wallet exploding!!!


I know Tiv drivers are a proud sort...but there ARE other cars around which give people the same sort of thrills...

[yi8tvr]

twobulldogs! said:

The service manager at the dealer assures me the parts to be fitted are modified and will deal with the previous problems. There seems to be no reason why they would want to increase the grief...do you KNOW different

Why do i get the impression no one listens and just rants. They could machine your new parts from diamonds it will make no difference if the engine is not completely flushed through of all debris and yes the new TVR parts are now of good quality. ITS NOT THE PARTS ITS THE WORKMANSHIP. When your engine is under warranty from the factory the firms who do the work are on a budget. TVR Craft are not thats why they do a proper job....

[twobulldogs!]

After today's events it seems small minded to worry about Speed 6 re-builds.

[jamessim]

Well said twobulldogs,
I am of the opinion that we only ever get one chance at life, if you cannot make a serious attempt at enjoying it, it's been wasted.
Others have never have the chance that we here in Britain have, I have in my mind thought that our family have had hard times in life, but nothing compared to the poverty experienced in the world.

Thank our lucky stars that we weren't among the persons involved today.

Best Regards,

James Sim.