Anyone know how many have gone pop?

Anyone know how many have gone pop?

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ggt

2,016 posts

235 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Big Al. said:
Don't wish to put a downer on the post BUT!

Jeeze! not again how many more people are going to ask the question!

The general consensus I would assum is a lot!

Do a search on the forum and you'll probably be reading ALL NIGHT!

Sorry but FFS



I am getting sick to death of this question as well, JUST DO A SEARCH. OH, by the way is it only in the tuscan that the speed six goes pop, as you never hear the bloody whingeing on the other sites like they whinge on here. .

Sorry for the edit, but your last comment was not necessary!


>> Edited by Big Al. on Saturday 16th July 09:53

madasafrog

17 posts

226 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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First time poster.

I am looking at buying a tuscan but have been concerned over the reliability side.

If there is a problem with the engine that means they go pop after so many miles then surely it is down to tvr to correct the problem? I am sure many will remember the land rover and the K series engine saga.

Dvpeace spending £10K in a year??? That would make me think twice about getting a tusc

BTW, nice site. Essential reading for anyone about to buy a tvr

Big Al.

68,877 posts

259 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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Do a search using 'POP' and you'll be reading for hours.

No seriously, just do a search and will find a vast amount of reading material.. not all good unfortunatly!

BTW don't think you'll get many replies to your post,
as the question has been done to death.

jamessim

497 posts

261 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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Sorry to hear about your troubles Mark,
I don't think we'll ever get to know the truth as to how many have had engine failures, and what their causes were, until the company come clean.
The above said, how do these related costs compare to any category, in which you can have the choice of, owning a mongerel, a pedigree or a thoroughbred? be it dogs, cats, birds, cars, boats, trains & planes etc?
I think the point I'm trying to make through this hazy alchohol fueled holiday weekend, is no matter what category you divulge into, the higher up the scale you go, it will cost you more pennies.
Figures are fantastic to play with, JSG's study had @100 or so replies, with @50% either way.
I can't be bothered to search and get the exact figures, but we are now reading that 80% of 2000 models have had rebuilds! who has the confirmed reports on this?
In my opinion the SP6 is a thoroughbred of an engine, and needs money spent on it to keep it in pristine condition, just like any race conditioned engine.
I returned from France yesterday, and I couldn't print what the 4 soldiers done as they checked me through into the port.

I hope you can sort out the problems that you have cheaply and amicably, and enjoy your car the way you and many others do.

Best Regards,


James Sim.

Mr. Magoo

686 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th July 2005
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justinp1 said:

TUS 373 said:
Don't wish to open the worm can, but I was led to believe that TVR would have liability under being 'fit for purpose' for a period of 6 years if it can be demonstrated (which it can) that there are broad problems. i.e. an original owner should have recourse upon the factory for faults occuring upto 2006 on a 2000 model. I don't know if this applies to subsequent owners though, perhaps only the original.

Don't know enough about it for sure, but I reckon that if you had problems still, the law would ultimately favour you than the factory?



My reasonable understanding of consumer and business law, means that I would certainly agree.

However I believe that such a case can only occur between two parties who have actually had direct contracts.

ie, if you are poisoned by a Coca Cola for example, you would have to sue the shop you had bought it from as you have a contract of sale with them. They would then in turn sue Coca Cola for their losses and costs.

In this case, if the dealers actually own the cars and sell them to customers, it is they who are liable. However if they merely act as agents for the factory, ie just sell the car and get people to sign the forms, TVR would be directly liable.

This all sounds easy and watertight however, how many of us have the inclination to take it as far as court? (As a side point, has anyone seriously threatened this and been 'sorted out' as long as they agree to never speak of it again...)

The case would mean that the car owner would have to prove their case, not the other way around. I guess it would be very difficult without getting inside expert witnesses to prove how an engine is manufactured and it would be seen as if in court you would be 'telling' the manufacturer who they make their own cars, or this is what the defence would be anyway.

In conclusion it would be something hugely costly, and drawn out and how many of us have the time or money to do it when all we want to do is spend time enjoying our cars?

On the other hand, they have played an expert job of sweeping it under the carpet, and JSG's work would be a valuable peice of evidence so should they be allowed to get away with it?



I was of the opinion there was always 'class action' in scenarios like this but I guess TVR dreaded the day someone raised this.