Group buy supercharger upgrade for 4k all inclusive!
Discussion
Ok, after much discussion and persuasion using my anti-social techniques :hehe: I've got the Craft team to come up with this deal:
A group buy (minimum of 4):
* Supercharger upgrade, releasing 150+bhp/100lbft
* Warrantied
* Cost: 4k all in!
So, if at least 4 of you were interested in this, then you've got a cracking deal.
Who said Uncle Ash doesnt look after the 6 cylinder boys! :)
So lets pitch it out, get 4 minimum in here to go for it, and then quote the reference 'ASH' and you get the whole job for 4k.
:)
PS I believe 2 are already interested, so just 2 more are needed for this price offer to work.
A group buy (minimum of 4):
* Supercharger upgrade, releasing 150+bhp/100lbft
* Warrantied
* Cost: 4k all in!
So, if at least 4 of you were interested in this, then you've got a cracking deal.
Who said Uncle Ash doesnt look after the 6 cylinder boys! :)
So lets pitch it out, get 4 minimum in here to go for it, and then quote the reference 'ASH' and you get the whole job for 4k.
:)
PS I believe 2 are already interested, so just 2 more are needed for this price offer to work.
chris watton said:
Sounds tempting! However, would it be safe to assume that the re-worked engine is done beforehand, as I doubt they'll be no warranty on an 'untouched' S6 engine?
Depending on how much re-work is required, that will be additional cost... either way, they wont do a FI conversion on a poor engine, so theres no need to worry on that side... I flicked a lot of switches to get this cracking offer sorted, cos I REALLY want to see supercharged tuscans out there!!!
For a bit extra, they can also offer a low-compression setup with more boost, probably giving easily over 200bhp more! 
Gotta admit, a 500BHP Tamora is pretty tempting 
, but I have a feeling that, because my engine's unmolested, I would end up with an unacceptably high bill, and me getting killed by the wife! lol,, but, I keep going back to that phrase, 500bhp in my Tamora, 500 bhp in my Ta...............
, but I have a feeling that, because my engine's unmolested, I would end up with an unacceptably high bill, and me getting killed by the wife! lol,, but, I keep going back to that phrase, 500bhp in my Tamora, 500 bhp in my Ta...............
SXS said:
Sounds tempting! However, would it be safe to assume that the re-worked engine is done beforehand, as I doubt they'll be no warranty on an 'untouched' S6 engine?
Depending on how much re-work is required, that will be additional cost... either way, they wont do a FI conversion on a poor engine, so theres no need to worry on that side... I flicked a lot of switches to get this cracking offer sorted, cos I REALLY want to see supercharged tuscans out there!!!
Need to do brakes and suspension etc etc. Also, will the WC borg warner t5 take the extra power from the engine, not forgetting the axle, and the extra heat that TVR could not get rid of from the engine bay. I wanted a SC Sagaris, and was told no way, we cant get the engine bay cool enought at the moment...
ASH nice work must admit, but I would like to see AC's views on the running gear taking this extra power before I release it.
Sounds Like Speed 6 power is about to really take off.
Mr F
The next expensive thing will be the insurance, would like to get quotes too for the mods. But hey, if its all in buget, then got for it
Freefall, the current TVR T5 box uses hardened gears so its a little tougher than a standard T5, unless you're pusing 500lb/ft+, she'll be fine, obviously shockloading is the killer of gearboxes, but with the right shifting skills, not a problem, unless you're drag-racing with launch at 5000rpm 
The blower is a centri, so shockloading wont be an issue, peak power will be higher up in the RPMS.... so everything will run just like before, but smoother, more torque all the way through, the power hike will be noticeable from 2500 RPM upwards, like a more up-up-up line, imagine taking off, and then pushing the pedal down all the way in 3rd, just imagine being rammed up the arse by a train getting faster and faster as the revs go higher!
The heat issues wont be a problem, Craft have an impressive solution up their sleaves!
I am told, nothing on the drivetrain will need to be modified at least up to 450lb/ft.
Stonker init
I went all out to get this deal arranged, because I really want to SEE ULTRA quick Speed 6's out there!!! So chaps, those with the odd 4k just grinding away in your accounts, stand up! Its time to line up and give your car a whole new lease of life!
With this kind of power, you'll be hitting a tonne in less than 7 secs and pushing up into the nether regions of the speedometer much much quicker!!! the beauty of centrifugal FI
The blower is a centri, so shockloading wont be an issue, peak power will be higher up in the RPMS.... so everything will run just like before, but smoother, more torque all the way through, the power hike will be noticeable from 2500 RPM upwards, like a more up-up-up line, imagine taking off, and then pushing the pedal down all the way in 3rd, just imagine being rammed up the arse by a train getting faster and faster as the revs go higher!
The heat issues wont be a problem, Craft have an impressive solution up their sleaves!
I am told, nothing on the drivetrain will need to be modified at least up to 450lb/ft.
Stonker init
I went all out to get this deal arranged, because I really want to SEE ULTRA quick Speed 6's out there!!! So chaps, those with the odd 4k just grinding away in your accounts, stand up! Its time to line up and give your car a whole new lease of life!
With this kind of power, you'll be hitting a tonne in less than 7 secs and pushing up into the nether regions of the speedometer much much quicker!!! the beauty of centrifugal FI
Oh nearly forgot to mention, they are the sole dealers for the UK and Europe for ATI/Procharger, these particular blowers are most popular in MASSIVE yank racers/drag cars, self contained oil system, and they sound like a jet in your engine!!! not a weedy mercedes kompressor sound, but a freakin jet engine! Add that to the pressure forced out the rear exhausts... you will have a car which will sound like something out of Fast n Furious 18!
I mean for 4k, what else is there???
You get loadsa power, a smoother running car, and an engine/exhaust note that will put pavaroti to shame!
I seriously wish I had a speed 6 too
You never know... watch this space
I mean for 4k, what else is there???
You get loadsa power, a smoother running car, and an engine/exhaust note that will put pavaroti to shame!
I seriously wish I had a speed 6 too
You never know... watch this space
SXS said:
Oh nearly forgot to mention, they are the sole dealers for the UK and Europe for ATI/Procharger, these particular blowers are most popular in MASSIVE yank racers/drag cars, self contained oil system, and they sound like a jet in your engine!!! not a weedy mercedes kompressor sound, but a freakin jet engine! Add that to the pressure forced out the rear exhausts... you will have a car which will sound like something out of Fast n Furious 18!
I mean for 4k, what else is there???
You get loadsa power, a smoother running car, and an engine/exhaust note that will put pavaroti to shame!
I seriously wish I had a speed 6 too
You never know... watch this space
Ash, thanks for the response. This does sound like a very good option for the speed6, and I'm sure a little more investigation if you were the 4 owners would give you the answers you are looking for.
I tell you what this does sound like for me, a speed 6 Cerbera with a blower, kicking 500 horses and any 4.5 ass that is out there. Bearing in mind that the Cebera was going to be the next car for me, then this could be an option, but we'll wait and see. Just out of curiosity, I will phone for an insurance quote for the conversion, based on 500 horses, bigger brakes, and nitron set up for the suspenstion, just to see what the insurance clan want from us all.
I cant see any spare change from £1500 personally or in the region of £2k, with really would blow this option out of the water for most people.
Still, pub talk tonight, playing pool, and this sounds like a very interesting option for my next car.
MR F
If there is spelling errors, its because im pissed...
Gazboy said:
* Warrantied
What is actually under the warrantee, the supercharger itself, or does it cover the entire engine and drivetrain? Will they relase a full list of items covered and not covered?
lol... gazboy, you know very well that tuner upgrades dont suddenly give your car a full insurance cover!!! pmsl
I believe the blower and all work carried out is under warranty, if the infamous Melling fix is also applied then its a different warranty scheme, you'll have to speak to Dave to get all the details... Daves a good man with a big heart, and he sees no reason why us TVR owners should not have the option of FI, whence this gracious opportunity for speed 6 owners to have an upgrade route which is not available anywhere else!
This offer is open only for a short period, weather is going down hill, this is the perfect time to get her off the roads and in for the work... I'm doing my best to really build the performance world up, and move it up a gear or two from puny mapping upgrades etc.
We can do as much as the ricer and yank worlds with our tivvers... and Craft are really going all out to make things happen...
As mentioned, if details were forthcomig of a combined package of charger plus sp6 engine rebuild/mods to mellling design, then I would be seriously interested....I know of several other people iin a similar situation wh may be persuaded to consider this also.
I for one would probably go for teh combined package as I would want a watertight warranty covering all aspects of teh engine and work done...
I for one would probably go for teh combined package as I would want a watertight warranty covering all aspects of teh engine and work done...
I'll have a word with Dave later on today, see what I can come up with.
Most of the cost on the Melling/Craft fix is the re-engineering of the heads which involves a subcontractor, so it will be hard to knock the price down for the upgrade rebuild...
Just as an idea, how much will you all be willing to pay for a upgrade rebuild + blower install, maximum...?
Most of the cost on the Melling/Craft fix is the re-engineering of the heads which involves a subcontractor, so it will be hard to knock the price down for the upgrade rebuild...
Just as an idea, how much will you all be willing to pay for a upgrade rebuild + blower install, maximum...?
how much sxs asks?
err, £2.50 ...on a serious note, at the moment with no real serious engine issues I would have a conservative number in mind as I am in no real rush if the price is too expensive,however if/when my engine goes again, that would change my views..
At what point of the upgrade would wider rear tyres be required and hence axle widening? as at some point on the bhp and torque increase curve you really need some more rubber being in contact with the tarmac? I suppose it depends on how smoothly the torque and power is applied to the tyres?
(Please bear in mind that I am a mechanical numpty so the above may well be bollox!!)
err, £2.50 ...on a serious note, at the moment with no real serious engine issues I would have a conservative number in mind as I am in no real rush if the price is too expensive,however if/when my engine goes again, that would change my views..
At what point of the upgrade would wider rear tyres be required and hence axle widening? as at some point on the bhp and torque increase curve you really need some more rubber being in contact with the tarmac? I suppose it depends on how smoothly the torque and power is applied to the tyres?
(Please bear in mind that I am a mechanical numpty so the above may well be bollox!!)
Just slightly wider tyres, and rims that can take them, say 285's will be sufficient for the rear, but you would need 10J rims for that. no axle, body-mods are required, just find the right wheels with the right offsets to compensate for wideness, set the camber to say 1-2 degress negative, and there you have it, plenty of rubber on the ground, and even more when you hit an angle, due to the camber adjusting back to 0+ on corner G's....
This sounds VERY interesting. Could be just the thing to give a new lease of life to the Tuscan.
Having said that, I'm in the weird position of the engine being the one GOOD thing about my Tuscan. It's all the other little things that go wrong that annoy me.
Fine work though fella.
Hmmmm...
...thinking...
Having said that, I'm in the weird position of the engine being the one GOOD thing about my Tuscan. It's all the other little things that go wrong that annoy me.
Fine work though fella.
Hmmmm...
...thinking...
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