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Watchman said:
I spent all of Sunday fitting a BlackVue 750s-2ch to my GL with the hard wire “pro” kit.
The installation was a 4 parter:
1. Position cameras
2. Find suitable supply (permanent and switched live)
3. Cabling from supply to camera
4. Cabling from front camera to rear
Number 2 started off easily. I found a permanent live in the fuse box on the left hand side of the dashboard. The GL has 3 fuseboards and luckily for me, that was the only one that provided permanent live.
Finding a switched live took me a bit of thinking until I realised the adjacent glove box light was on the ignition circuit so that was the supply side sorted.
Number 4 was a total b
d. I started with the difficult bit of passing the cable through the rubber hose between the roof and the tailgate by sliding a stiff zip tie through, taping the cable to the end, and pulling through. Sounds easy but along with re-attaching the hose ends to the clips that secure the hose to the car and tailgate, that was slightly over 2-hours of my life spent.
Routing the cable from front to back was then a matter of minutes.
The cameras are good - both 1080p with the front being 60fps and the (much smaller) rear 30fps.
My requirements included no screen, two cameras, easy to position behind RVM (out of the way), and good enough quality to read reg plates and identify people’s faces. The 750 pair do all of that.
And during one of the Amazon sales 2 week’s ago, it was only £250 plus the pro wiring kit. That was for the 16Gb version which is no different to the others except for the supplied micro-SD card, and I have other larger cards in GoPros that will work.
The camera allows for your phone to connect to it via WiFi so when your home you can view or download from your house (seems to work from about 15 metres away, through double glazing).
Excellent work - is it a Mercedes GLE or GLC you have?The installation was a 4 parter:
1. Position cameras
2. Find suitable supply (permanent and switched live)
3. Cabling from supply to camera
4. Cabling from front camera to rear
Number 2 started off easily. I found a permanent live in the fuse box on the left hand side of the dashboard. The GL has 3 fuseboards and luckily for me, that was the only one that provided permanent live.
Finding a switched live took me a bit of thinking until I realised the adjacent glove box light was on the ignition circuit so that was the supply side sorted.
Number 4 was a total b
d. I started with the difficult bit of passing the cable through the rubber hose between the roof and the tailgate by sliding a stiff zip tie through, taping the cable to the end, and pulling through. Sounds easy but along with re-attaching the hose ends to the clips that secure the hose to the car and tailgate, that was slightly over 2-hours of my life spent. Routing the cable from front to back was then a matter of minutes.
The cameras are good - both 1080p with the front being 60fps and the (much smaller) rear 30fps.
My requirements included no screen, two cameras, easy to position behind RVM (out of the way), and good enough quality to read reg plates and identify people’s faces. The 750 pair do all of that.
And during one of the Amazon sales 2 week’s ago, it was only £250 plus the pro wiring kit. That was for the 16Gb version which is no different to the others except for the supplied micro-SD card, and I have other larger cards in GoPros that will work.
The camera allows for your phone to connect to it via WiFi so when your home you can view or download from your house (seems to work from about 15 metres away, through double glazing).
Edited by Watchman on Wednesday 1st August 18:27
Just from my experience, and it's essentially only that; I've never found the glove box light usually works on ignition. The glove box light usually has a live feed, or at least a delayed switched circuit, as the light remains on inside the glovebox even when the vehicle is off, the same as the light in the rear boot space. This is to allow you to still gain contents out of the storage compartments in pitch black, even when the vehicle is off. If you are 100% sure it's switched, when you started the vehicle, the power magic pro would have turned on without any user intervention (it's a good way to test if the red ignition wire is working). If you had to flick the on/off switch on the PMP to get it to come on, then most likely the ignition wire won't be working, and your PMP won't really be protecting your battery.
Edited by Dash-Cam Man on Thursday 2nd August 11:35
JumboBeef said:
Very tempted.
Blueskysea B1W WiFi Mini Dash cam Car Camera Vehicle Video Recorder 360 Degree Rotatable Lens 1080p 30fps G-Sensor Loop Recording https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0777J5Y6J/ref=cm_sw_r...
Bought this. Very happy. App works well, picture quality is very good (although not tried it at night yet). Very small slim unit that can hardly be seen, inside or out.Blueskysea B1W WiFi Mini Dash cam Car Camera Vehicle Video Recorder 360 Degree Rotatable Lens 1080p 30fps G-Sensor Loop Recording https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0777J5Y6J/ref=cm_sw_r...
Under 50 quid delivered (plus SD card). Why pay more?
Dash-Cam Man said:
Watchman said:
I spent all of Sunday fitting a BlackVue 750s-2ch to my GL with the hard wire “pro” kit.
The installation was a 4 parter:
1. Position cameras
2. Find suitable supply (permanent and switched live)
3. Cabling from supply to camera
4. Cabling from front camera to rear
Number 2 started off easily. I found a permanent live in the fuse box on the left hand side of the dashboard. The GL has 3 fuseboards and luckily for me, that was the only one that provided permanent live.
Finding a switched live took me a bit of thinking until I realised the adjacent glove box light was on the ignition circuit so that was the supply side sorted.
Number 4 was a total bd. I started with the difficult bit of passing the cable through the rubber hose between the roof and the tailgate by sliding a stiff zip tie through, taping the cable to the end, and pulling through. Sounds easy but along with re-attaching the hose ends to the clips that secure the hose to the car and tailgate, that was slightly over 2-hours of my life spent.
Routing the cable from front to back was then a matter of minutes.
The cameras are good - both 1080p with the front being 60fps and the (much smaller) rear 30fps.
My requirements included no screen, two cameras, easy to position behind RVM (out of the way), and good enough quality to read reg plates and identify people’s faces. The 750 pair do all of that.
And during one of the Amazon sales 2 week’s ago, it was only £250 plus the pro wiring kit. That was for the 16Gb version which is no different to the others except for the supplied micro-SD card, and I have other larger cards in GoPros that will work.
The camera allows for your phone to connect to it via WiFi so when your home you can view or download from your house (seems to work from about 15 metres away, through double glazing).
Excellent work - is it a Mercedes GLE or GLC you have?The installation was a 4 parter:
1. Position cameras
2. Find suitable supply (permanent and switched live)
3. Cabling from supply to camera
4. Cabling from front camera to rear
Number 2 started off easily. I found a permanent live in the fuse box on the left hand side of the dashboard. The GL has 3 fuseboards and luckily for me, that was the only one that provided permanent live.
Finding a switched live took me a bit of thinking until I realised the adjacent glove box light was on the ignition circuit so that was the supply side sorted.
Number 4 was a total b
d. I started with the difficult bit of passing the cable through the rubber hose between the roof and the tailgate by sliding a stiff zip tie through, taping the cable to the end, and pulling through. Sounds easy but along with re-attaching the hose ends to the clips that secure the hose to the car and tailgate, that was slightly over 2-hours of my life spent. Routing the cable from front to back was then a matter of minutes.
The cameras are good - both 1080p with the front being 60fps and the (much smaller) rear 30fps.
My requirements included no screen, two cameras, easy to position behind RVM (out of the way), and good enough quality to read reg plates and identify people’s faces. The 750 pair do all of that.
And during one of the Amazon sales 2 week’s ago, it was only £250 plus the pro wiring kit. That was for the 16Gb version which is no different to the others except for the supplied micro-SD card, and I have other larger cards in GoPros that will work.
The camera allows for your phone to connect to it via WiFi so when your home you can view or download from your house (seems to work from about 15 metres away, through double glazing).
Edited by Watchman on Wednesday 1st August 18:27
Just from my experience, and it's essentially only that; I've never found the glove box light usually works on ignition. The glove box light usually has a live feed, or at least a delayed switched circuit, as the light remains on inside the glovebox even when the vehicle is off, the same as the light in the rear boot space. This is to allow you to still gain contents out of the storage compartments in pitch black, even when the vehicle is off. If you are 100% sure it's switched, when you started the vehicle, the power magic pro would have turned on without any user intervention (it's a good way to test if the red ignition wire is working). If you had to flick the on/off switch on the PMP to get it to come on, then most likely the ignition wire won't be working, and your PMP won't really be protecting your battery.
Edited by Dash-Cam Man on Thursday 2nd August 11:35
I checked the operation of the light. There's a +12v and an earth cable. The light itself is switched by a mechanical lever forcing the sprung contacts apart in the light fitting.
The +12v comes on with the ignition and goes off immediately when the ignition is turned off. It probably stays on a while then turns off after a few mins if you leave the ignition on and engine off but that should still be OK. It definitely goes off as soon as you turn off the ignition.
The boot lights do have the delay you indicated.
Watchman said:
I spent all of Sunday fitting a BlackVue 750s-2ch to my GL with the hard wire “pro” kit.
The installation was a 4 parter:
1. Position cameras
2. Find suitable supply (permanent and switched live)
3. Cabling from supply to camera
4. Cabling from front camera to rear
Number 2 started off easily. I found a permanent live in the fuse box on the left hand side of the dashboard. The GL has 3 fuseboards and luckily for me, that was the only one that provided permanent live.
Finding a switched live took me a bit of thinking until I realised the adjacent glove box light was on the ignition circuit so that was the supply side sorted.
Number 4 was a total bd. I started with the difficult bit of passing the cable through the rubber hose between the roof and the tailgate by sliding a stiff zip tie through, taping the cable to the end, and pulling through. Sounds easy but along with re-attaching the hose ends to the clips that secure the hose to the car and tailgate, that was slightly over 2-hours of my life spent.
Routing the cable from front to back was then a matter of minutes.
The cameras are good - both 1080p with the front being 60fps and the (much smaller) rear 30fps.
My requirements included no screen, two cameras, easy to position behind RVM (out of the way), and good enough quality to read reg plates and identify people’s faces. The 750 pair do all of that.
And during one of the Amazon sales 2 week’s ago, it was only £250 plus the pro wiring kit. That was for the 16Gb version which is no different to the others except for the supplied micro-SD card, and I have other larger cards in GoPros that will work.
The camera allows for your phone to connect to it via WiFi so when your home you can view or download from your house (seems to work from about 15 metres away, through double glazing).
Great choice with the F750 you won't be disappointed. Ditto on the rear camera, but worth the extra time to do it right. I had to add an extension to my cable as it wasn't long enough (Sportage).The installation was a 4 parter:
1. Position cameras
2. Find suitable supply (permanent and switched live)
3. Cabling from supply to camera
4. Cabling from front camera to rear
Number 2 started off easily. I found a permanent live in the fuse box on the left hand side of the dashboard. The GL has 3 fuseboards and luckily for me, that was the only one that provided permanent live.
Finding a switched live took me a bit of thinking until I realised the adjacent glove box light was on the ignition circuit so that was the supply side sorted.
Number 4 was a total b
d. I started with the difficult bit of passing the cable through the rubber hose between the roof and the tailgate by sliding a stiff zip tie through, taping the cable to the end, and pulling through. Sounds easy but along with re-attaching the hose ends to the clips that secure the hose to the car and tailgate, that was slightly over 2-hours of my life spent. Routing the cable from front to back was then a matter of minutes.
The cameras are good - both 1080p with the front being 60fps and the (much smaller) rear 30fps.
My requirements included no screen, two cameras, easy to position behind RVM (out of the way), and good enough quality to read reg plates and identify people’s faces. The 750 pair do all of that.
And during one of the Amazon sales 2 week’s ago, it was only £250 plus the pro wiring kit. That was for the 16Gb version which is no different to the others except for the supplied micro-SD card, and I have other larger cards in GoPros that will work.
The camera allows for your phone to connect to it via WiFi so when your home you can view or download from your house (seems to work from about 15 metres away, through double glazing).
Edited by Watchman on Wednesday 1st August 18:27
I'm surprised you needed to extend the cable. The one I received was very long and I had maybe a metre more than I needed. The GL is a huge car too. Did you pass the cable through the roof or did you route it down and through the sills? A colleague did the latter which requires longer lengths but his was a smaller car anyway. I don't think I'd have got away with that in mine.
The rubber hose in your pic is exactly the same as mine. Did you manage to use that easily? There are two for my tailgate - one each side, and they are both "full" of wiring Mercedes has already installed. I had to squeeze and manipulate the tie wrap/cable combo through which is what took the most time.
Tip for anyone else doing this... A small amount of automotive nylon lube helps stop the cable from snagging on the concertina hose. Only use a bit because it'll probably attract dirt over time but there was no way mine was passing through without it.
The rubber hose in your pic is exactly the same as mine. Did you manage to use that easily? There are two for my tailgate - one each side, and they are both "full" of wiring Mercedes has already installed. I had to squeeze and manipulate the tie wrap/cable combo through which is what took the most time.
Tip for anyone else doing this... A small amount of automotive nylon lube helps stop the cable from snagging on the concertina hose. Only use a bit because it'll probably attract dirt over time but there was no way mine was passing through without it.
Watchman said:
I'm surprised you needed to extend the cable. The one I received was very long and I had maybe a metre more than I needed. The GL is a huge car too. Did you pass the cable through the roof or did you route it down and through the sills? A colleague did the latter which requires longer lengths but his was a smaller car anyway. I don't think I'd have got away with that in mine.
The rubber hose in your pic is exactly the same as mine. Did you manage to use that easily? There are two for my tailgate - one each side, and they are both "full" of wiring Mercedes has already installed. I had to squeeze and manipulate the tie wrap/cable combo through which is what took the most time.
Tip for anyone else doing this... A small amount of automotive nylon lube helps stop the cable from snagging on the concertina hose. Only use a bit because it'll probably attract dirt over time but there was no way mine was passing through without it.
Yes down and along the sill, must admit I hadn't thought of routing it through the roof lining.The rubber hose in your pic is exactly the same as mine. Did you manage to use that easily? There are two for my tailgate - one each side, and they are both "full" of wiring Mercedes has already installed. I had to squeeze and manipulate the tie wrap/cable combo through which is what took the most time.
Tip for anyone else doing this... A small amount of automotive nylon lube helps stop the cable from snagging on the concertina hose. Only use a bit because it'll probably attract dirt over time but there was no way mine was passing through without it.
It was tight through the hose, I think I put a solid cable through first and then pulled the camera cable back through.
In practice you don't need to use much of the roof lining. You just tuck it in a little bit then flap the rubber door seals back over it. At the various pillars, you only need to push it a little way down to ensure it won't pop out again and the whole lot is invisible. This way you keep it well clear of the airbags too.
Just fitted a blueskysea B1W dash cam in the wife’s toe rag. Great bit of kit for the money and really impressed with picture quality.
I’m now wondering if it’s worth picking up a second unit as a rear dash cam ? Don’t know if a rear one is actually needed ever or is it more belt n braces ? If someone hits me up the backside the front cam will show I was stationary so that scenario should be covered. Am I missing anything or should I just spring for the second cam.
Cheers
I’m now wondering if it’s worth picking up a second unit as a rear dash cam ? Don’t know if a rear one is actually needed ever or is it more belt n braces ? If someone hits me up the backside the front cam will show I was stationary so that scenario should be covered. Am I missing anything or should I just spring for the second cam.
Cheers
This seems as good as any at the ~£100 price point
http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2018/2/9/finally-a-go...
Either that or the Mini 0906, which was the budget choice when I was looking a year or so ago
http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2018/2/9/finally-a-go...
Either that or the Mini 0906, which was the budget choice when I was looking a year or so ago
fastbikes76 said:
I’m now wondering if it’s worth picking up a second unit as a rear dash cam ? Don’t know if a rear one is actually needed ever or is it more belt n braces ? If someone hits me up the backside the front cam will show I was stationary so that scenario should be covered. Am I missing anything or should I just spring for the second cam.
Cheers
I have a blueskysea. I think it's great.Cheers
To answer your point about rear cameras......
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/53117...
LocoBlade said:
This seems as good as any at the ~£100 price point
http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2018/2/9/finally-a-go...
Either that or the Mini 0906, which was the budget choice when I was looking a year or so ago
I bought this based on Techmoans review. Seems to do exactly as he said. Only issue is it has destroyed DAB. Might be worth noting it’s not a modern car so has an old DIN radio, a two year old Continental though. http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2018/2/9/finally-a-go...
Either that or the Mini 0906, which was the budget choice when I was looking a year or so ago
lexi 1 said:
Hi can anyone help me i have a blackvue 750s 2 channel and i cant seem to get the gps to be reliable it just shows the car at my house even when its at work with me !
Does the blue LED switch on when you're in motion? It's next to the amber LED.If it doesn't, I would consider returning it.
Edited by Watchman on Tuesday 2nd October 18:25
lexi 1 said:
Hi can anyone help me i have a blackvue 750s 2 channel and i cant seem to get the gps to be reliable it just shows the car at my house even when its at work with me !
What vehicle do you have? Make, model and year please. When using apps such as Waze or Google maps, can your phone establish a GPS connection from within side your vehicle?
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