Advanced / Police Driver Training
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SVS said:
waremark said:
Strong recommendation for a half day assessment with one of the two High Performance Course managers. Google it, both former Advanced Police instructors, extensive track experience, coaching refined over a long period of helping civilian enthusiasts. One based Banbury, one south Wales.
+another strong recommendation for the High Performance Course. Utterly brilliant. 
The standard of instruction for the High Performance Course is outstanding. (HPC is taught far better than the IAM and RoSPA, in my experience, and I’ve been an IAM Observer.)
Chris200 said:
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions, time for some research, but thinking Rospa will be best option.
Ideally looking for a course where I don't have to use my own car.
Why are you reluctant to use your car? It sounds very suitable and would not suffer. Of course you could use a hire car. Getting familiar with a different car could be a distraction from the coaching. Ideally looking for a course where I don't have to use my own car.
The standard of coaching by the professionals is orders of magnitude higher than that by the amateurs of IAM and RoSPA (such as myself).
As mentioned, any training should be well within the capabilities of your car. The techniques you learn including smoothness and mechanical sympathy should actually make it easier on your car.
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
IcedKiwi said:
As mentioned, any training should be well within the capabilities of your car. The techniques you learn including smoothness and mechanical sympathy should actually make it easier on your car.
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
The CAT offer seems to be about cars for track use.But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
I am interested in this thread, I tried both IAM and RoSPA but sadly had bad experiences with both and looking just now it appears IAM's website is not working, and RoSPA's is not suitable for mobile devices and my region groups site has let it's domain registration lapse. Off to a good start.
IAM paired me with someone who said before I had even gotninthe car that I was his first person and then failed to be able to fit his additional rear view mirror without my assistance, the less went downhill from there. With RoSPA I found a cliqueness and the expectation to turn up every Saturday and wait around in the hope someone could take you out for a drive, with no indication of how long you would wait.
Hopefully they where poor examples but it put me right of at the age of 20 odd. Ten years on, living in a different area, I might try again in due course.
Daniel
IAM paired me with someone who said before I had even gotninthe car that I was his first person and then failed to be able to fit his additional rear view mirror without my assistance, the less went downhill from there. With RoSPA I found a cliqueness and the expectation to turn up every Saturday and wait around in the hope someone could take you out for a drive, with no indication of how long you would wait.
Hopefully they where poor examples but it put me right of at the age of 20 odd. Ten years on, living in a different area, I might try again in due course.
Daniel
vonhosen said:
That looks much more promising, and being based in Bolton, not too far away either.I will make enquiries.
Thanks
dhutch said:
I am interested in this thread, I tried both IAM and RoSPA but sadly had bad experiences with both and looking just now it appears IAM's website is not working, and RoSPA's is not suitable for mobile devices and my region groups site has let it's domain registration lapse. Off to a good start.
IAM paired me with someone who said before I had even gotninthe car that I was his first person and then failed to be able to fit his additional rear view mirror without my assistance, the less went downhill from there. With RoSPA I found a cliqueness and the expectation to turn up every Saturday and wait around in the hope someone could take you out for a drive, with no indication of how long you would wait.
Hopefully they where poor examples but it put me right of at the age of 20 odd. Ten years on, living in a different area, I might try again in due course.
Daniel
there are a mixture of groups out there - some amazingly good, some not so good - for any one area, either IAM or RoSPA group might be better - they are all humans, so quality does vary IAM paired me with someone who said before I had even gotninthe car that I was his first person and then failed to be able to fit his additional rear view mirror without my assistance, the less went downhill from there. With RoSPA I found a cliqueness and the expectation to turn up every Saturday and wait around in the hope someone could take you out for a drive, with no indication of how long you would wait.
Hopefully they where poor examples but it put me right of at the age of 20 odd. Ten years on, living in a different area, I might try again in due course.
Daniel
I did IAM some 20 years ago, so am out of touch as to which groups are good / bad - but there is a good discussion from some of the better observers / senior observers and even those who have examined - on ADHub (advanceddrivinghub.com) which seems to have now picked up the IAM forum after that was closed - so maybe pop on there and ask the question - someone will be able to recommend a good group...dhutch said:
I am interested in this thread, I tried both IAM and RoSPA but sadly had bad experiences with both and looking just now it appears IAM's website is not working, and RoSPA's is not suitable for mobile devices and my region groups site has let it's domain registration lapse. Off to a good start.
IAM paired me with someone who said before I had even gotninthe car that I was his first person and then failed to be able to fit his additional rear view mirror without my assistance, the less went downhill from there. With RoSPA I found a cliqueness and the expectation to turn up every Saturday and wait around in the hope someone could take you out for a drive, with no indication of how long you would wait.
Hopefully they where poor examples but it put me right of at the age of 20 odd. Ten years on, living in a different area, I might try again in due course.
Daniel
That's not good enough! Are you near Blackpool?IAM paired me with someone who said before I had even gotninthe car that I was his first person and then failed to be able to fit his additional rear view mirror without my assistance, the less went downhill from there. With RoSPA I found a cliqueness and the expectation to turn up every Saturday and wait around in the hope someone could take you out for a drive, with no indication of how long you would wait.
Hopefully they where poor examples but it put me right of at the age of 20 odd. Ten years on, living in a different area, I might try again in due course.
Daniel
akirk said:
there are a mixture of groups out there - some amazingly good, some not so good..... ..... there is a good discussion from some of the better observers / senior observers and even those who have examined - on ADHub (advanceddrivinghub.com) which seems to have now picked up the IAM forum after that was closed - so maybe pop on there and ask the question - someone will be able to recommend a good group...
Thanks for the heads up.ian in lancs said:
That's not good enough! Are you near Blackpool?
This was from Loughborough, north Leicestershire, but also ten years ago. I'm now in N.Staffs, but have family and friends all over the Northwest inc Bolton.
Daniel
IcedKiwi said:
As mentioned, any training should be well within the capabilities of your car. The techniques you learn including smoothness and mechanical sympathy should actually make it easier on your car.
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
website said:
Advanced Driving Course Information
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
£900I need to put my prices up...
Reg Local said:
IcedKiwi said:
As mentioned, any training should be well within the capabilities of your car. The techniques you learn including smoothness and mechanical sympathy should actually make it easier on your car.
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
website said:
Advanced Driving Course Information
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
£900I need to put my prices up...
akirk said:
Reg Local said:
website said:
Advanced Driving Course Information
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
£900I need to put my prices up...
Disclaimer: I have no idea, having never been
Reg Local said:
akirk said:
I assume that you don't have to hire Millbrook?!
I don't need to. I have the Yorkshire Dales....and anybody that can cope with the roads in the Esk valley should be able to cope with relative ease anywhere else.
Best wishes all,
Dave - a regular 'coper' with the roads of the Esk valley.
PS. Hello, Reg.
akirk said:
Reg Local said:
IcedKiwi said:
As mentioned, any training should be well within the capabilities of your car. The techniques you learn including smoothness and mechanical sympathy should actually make it easier on your car.
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
But if you are against it, http://catdrivertraining.co.uk offer similar course but with the option of using one of their cars - but budget ~£3-500/day extra for the use of it
website said:
Advanced Driving Course Information
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
Duration: 8 hours
No. of Trainees: 1
Location: Millbrook Proving Ground (3 hours) & Public Highway
Price: £900 using your car £1280 using a CAT vehicle (Mondeo/BMW/Subaru/350z) Lunch & refreshments included
£900I need to put my prices up...
Max_Torque said:
Don't tell anyone, but it isn't very expensive to hire Millbrook for a few hours unless you want one of the more specialist facilities (crash, driveby, wading etc) For just the Mile straight, Bowl, Hill route, and inner/outer handling tracks your looking at around £50/hr
But you do also need to acquire track permit or have a driving coach who is allowed to take non-permit holders ondhutch said:
akirk said:
there are a mixture of groups out there - some amazingly good, some not so good..... ..... there is a good discussion from some of the better observers / senior observers and even those who have examined - on ADHub (advanceddrivinghub.com) which seems to have now picked up the IAM forum after that was closed - so maybe pop on there and ask the question - someone will be able to recommend a good group...
Thanks for the heads up.ian in lancs said:
That's not good enough! Are you near Blackpool?
This was from Loughborough, north Leicestershire, but also ten years ago. I'm now in N.Staffs, but have family and friends all over the Northwest inc Bolton.
Daniel
Edited by ian in lancs on Wednesday 1st November 23:43
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