A (probably daft) question on starting a car

A (probably daft) question on starting a car

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Pica-Pica

13,816 posts

85 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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yellowjack said:
Scabutz said:
Never put the clutch down. If an engine won't start with the additinal load of spinning a couple of shafts in a gearbox it must be in a pretty poor state.

Probably was different 50 years ago but I've never done it in the last 20.
I ALWAYS push the clutch pedal fully down...

silly

...because if I don't, no amount of pressing the "Power" button on the dash will start the car. All you get is some daft message in the dash display saying "Press clutch to start".

This is my first car where I've needed to do this but after six years of ownership, I suppose it's probably become an ingrained habit now. not that I imagine it'll do any harm to a car that doesn't need it.

It can be a pain, though, if you want to start the car on the drive to have a look under the bonnet with the engine running. Got to get at least one leg in as far as the clutch pedal to do so, not a simple turn of a key like the olden days. I assume it's a safety device to prevent inadvertent starting by youngsters "playing driving" in dad's car, or accidentally putting your hand on the starter button while cleaning the interior with the remote fob in your pocket...
On modern cars, how often is it necessary to look under the bonnet with the engine running? Checking fluids would not need that.

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
yellowjack said:
Scabutz said:
Never put the clutch down. If an engine won't start with the additinal load of spinning a couple of shafts in a gearbox it must be in a pretty poor state.

Probably was different 50 years ago but I've never done it in the last 20.
I ALWAYS push the clutch pedal fully down...

silly

...because if I don't, no amount of pressing the "Power" button on the dash will start the car. All you get is some daft message in the dash display saying "Press clutch to start".

This is my first car where I've needed to do this but after six years of ownership, I suppose it's probably become an ingrained habit now. not that I imagine it'll do any harm to a car that doesn't need it.

It can be a pain, though, if you want to start the car on the drive to have a look under the bonnet with the engine running. Got to get at least one leg in as far as the clutch pedal to do so, not a simple turn of a key like the olden days. I assume it's a safety device to prevent inadvertent starting by youngsters "playing driving" in dad's car, or accidentally putting your hand on the starter button while cleaning the interior with the remote fob in your pocket...
On modern cars, how often is it necessary to look under the bonnet with the engine running? Checking fluids would not need that.
Good point, but on icy mornings it's a little annoying to not be able to just reach in quickly and turn the engine on whilst you de-ice the car, or for those people with driveway and gates, go back inside for a few minutes whilst the car warms up. This is even more annoying if you've got a very muddy driveway or thick snow on the ground.

Strudul

1,588 posts

86 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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RobM77 said:
Good point, but on icy mornings it's a little annoying to not be able to just reach in quickly and turn the engine on whilst you de-ice the car, or for those people with driveway and gates, go back inside for a few minutes whilst the car warms up. This is even more annoying if you've got a very muddy driveway or thick snow on the ground.
Still possible with long legs or a big pole. smile

FK

161 posts

65 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Evening all,

I used to not bother with the clutch , as I have not owned a car modern (picky?) enough for it to be an issue. But then I tried to start my dad's mondeo once, and forgot I had left it in reverse, as it was on a slope. The whole car lurched on the starter motor, but luckily didn't hit anything as the handbrake was on!

Lesson duly learnt. Clutch goes down before engine fires up

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Strudul said:
RobM77 said:
Good point, but on icy mornings it's a little annoying to not be able to just reach in quickly and turn the engine on whilst you de-ice the car, or for those people with driveway and gates, go back inside for a few minutes whilst the car warms up. This is even more annoying if you've got a very muddy driveway or thick snow on the ground.
Still possible with long legs or a big pole. smile
Damn it. I thought I'd sussed where I could get a big pole. My neighbour has a lodger, and I went round to ask if he'd help out on cold mornings. Turns out he was no use though. He wasn't a big Pole, he was a big Czech...


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