Cars least likely to contain advanced drivers
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vantara said:
Foss62 said:
vantara said:
Another Volvo driving ROSPA Advanced Driver here - maybe I need to hand my card back in!
Or maybe you could hand your car back in?
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I would be the first to admit that my prejudices are based on very thin grounds - no real offence intended.
Foss62 said:
I seem to remember from the Ogri cartoons (mentioned earlier by Grahamdub) that there was a mild mannered Volvo driver who would get angrier and angrier as the strip progressed. I hope you are not that person.
I would be the first to admit that my prejudices are based on very thin grounds - no real offence intended.
No worries, should have added a smiley to my last post I would be the first to admit that my prejudices are based on very thin grounds - no real offence intended.
Foss62 said:
vantara said:
Foss62 said:
vantara said:
Another Volvo driving ROSPA Advanced Driver here - maybe I need to hand my card back in!
Or maybe you could hand your car back in?te I would be the first to admit that my prejudices are based on very thin grounds - no real offence intended.
I was a RosPa Diploma instructor back in the day, the crap drivers were mostly the middle-aged who'd been 'driving for years', had a prang, and wanted to get their insurance down. We also worked with the HPC (High Performance Cars Club) and took groups of Porkers, TVRs and such over to Luxembourg for the weekend.
We had a real mix: PoleStar Volvos, old Jags, 911's. The crappiest of drivers were the old giffers in E-types. The ones with the keenest sense of restraint/anticipation were all under 30 and drove sh*t-box Astras. :-)
We had a real mix: PoleStar Volvos, old Jags, 911's. The crappiest of drivers were the old giffers in E-types. The ones with the keenest sense of restraint/anticipation were all under 30 and drove sh*t-box Astras. :-)
Slushbox said:
I was a RosPa Diploma instructor back in the day, the crap drivers were mostly the middle-aged who'd been 'driving for years', had a prang, and wanted to get their insurance down. We also worked with the HPC (High Performance Cars Club) and took groups of Porkers, TVRs and such over to Luxembourg for the weekend.
We had a real mix: PoleStar Volvos, old Jags, 911's. The crappiest of drivers were the old giffers in E-types. The ones with the keenest sense of restraint/anticipation were all under 30 and drove sh*t-box Astras. :-)
HaHaHa I have to smile , I have never done IAM ,RosPa but I did drive 3 million miles in RTW's carrying flammable liquids for an oil company, driven all over Europe (family in Germany} not had the prang yet don't have a trilby, brolly or tissues on the back shelf either.There will be some very experienced drivers on here who like me have spent their life as a professional driver in all weathers for donkeys' years, does that not qualify you as an advanced driver?We had a real mix: PoleStar Volvos, old Jags, 911's. The crappiest of drivers were the old giffers in E-types. The ones with the keenest sense of restraint/anticipation were all under 30 and drove sh*t-box Astras. :-)
Edited by Gilbertrachet on Wednesday 20th February 20:06
Grahamdub said:
I drive a Volvo and passed my IAM test 
Likewise. only i passed my IAM test in an extended test that involved a Seraph and a Turbo RJust to add
Back in the 50's my DAd took a very wide berth of Standard 8, Minor 1000,Austin A30/35 and the upright Ford Pops of up to 1960 vintage.Esp if the driver was
old
Wore a triilby
Used Driving gloves
Wife also wore a hate and the more flowers the warier he was!
He had a 6th sense and used to hang back saying, that pillock is going to stop ded in about 100yds to look at the view/reverse/pullnito a layby he was rarely wrong!
Edited by silverfoxcc on Wednesday 20th February 21:59
Foss62 said:
I think I should also add that I currently drive a Skoda, so am on slightly dodgy ground as far as past vehicular prejudice goes
My next door neighbour had a Skoda when I lived at home. It was st, I mean really st, took 10-15 mins to get started and when it did it smoked worse than a clapped out old London taxi. It rusted in front of your eyes and to rub it in it was orange! Admittedly that was over 40 years ago but I assume they are all still total st. I mean, like you say about Volvos, they can't possibly have changed can they? 
RichB said:
My next door neighbour had a Skoda when I lived at home. It was st, I mean really st, took 10-15 mins to get started and when it did it smoked worse than a clapped out old London taxi. It rusted in front of your eyes and to rub it in it was orange! Admittedly that was over 40 years ago but I assume they are all still total st. I mean, like you say about Volvos, they can't possibly have changed can they?
I don’t think Volvos have changed - they have always been good cars, they just tended to attract dodgy drivers. I had almost forgotten this until I recently encountered an even more than usually intransigent ‘CLOC’ member who happened to be driving a Volvo, and I mentioned all the old Volvo prejudices to my children who were in the car with me. It would have gone no further if later on the same journey we hadn’t approached a roundabout behind a Volvo that mounted the left hand kerb at some speed before nearly stopping on the roundabout and then accelerating away straddling two exit lanes. The case was proven a few days later when yet another Volvo found itself in the right hand lane to turn left onto a Motorway sliproad. The person kind enough to let it in was punished (along with all the following traffic) by being forced to follow the Volvo onto the busy Motorway t, I mean really st, took 10-15 mins to get started and when it did it smoked worse than a clapped out old London taxi. It rusted in front of your eyes and to rub it in it was orange! Admittedly that was over 40 years ago but I assume they are all still total st. I mean, like you say about Volvos, they can't possibly have changed can they? at a speed of around 30 mph.
Foss62 said:
I don’t think Volvos have changed - they have always been good cars, they just tended to attract dodgy drivers. I had almost forgotten this until I recently encountered an even more than usually intransigent ‘CLOC’ member who happened to be driving a Volvo, and I mentioned all the old Volvo prejudices to my children who were in the car with me. It would have gone no further if later on the same journey we hadn’t approached a roundabout behind a Volvo that mounted the left hand kerb at some speed before nearly stopping on the roundabout and then accelerating away straddling two exit lanes. The case was proven a few days later when yet another Volvo found itself in the right hand lane to turn left onto a Motorway sliproad. The person kind enough to let it in was punished (along with all the following traffic) by being forced to follow the Volvo onto the busy Motorway
at a speed of around 30 mph.
My current Volvo was previously owned by one of those Volvo drivers. It had a few marks where he had obviously hit things (I saw it before the garage had prepared it) and had never been cleaned properly. The owners manual was incredibly well thumbed for a couple of years old car too, I even checked the numbers in it as I thought I'd been given an old one by mistake. The sides of the pages are covered in pencil notes about all the various features. One particularly odd one next to the description of HID headlights, where it said they rise and fall to the correct height on start up was "I must have these then" at a speed of around 30 mph.
Grahamdub said:
My current Volvo was previously owned by one of those Volvo drivers. It had a few marks where he had obviously hit things (I saw it before the garage had prepared it) and had never been cleaned properly. The owners manual was incredibly well thumbed for a couple of years old car too, I even checked the numbers in it as I thought I'd been given an old one by mistake. The sides of the pages are covered in pencil notes about all the various features. One particularly odd one next to the description of HID headlights, where it said they rise and fall to the correct height on start up was "I must have these then"
You can almost imagine him driving along with one eye on the manual trying to understand all the strange things that were happening....This reminds me a bit of the owners manual that came with the Honda 400/4 I had as an 18 year old. It had incredibly detailed instructions on how to actually ride it, along the lines of: ‘depress gear lever (b) with left foot......’ I often wondered about the scenario in which these sort of instructions would be useful and what the outcome would be if someone who had never sat on a bike before tried to follow them word for word.
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