Undertaking on dual carriageway?
Discussion
InitialDave said:
Well, when you see that, being a courteous driver, you'll pull out to lane 3 to give them space for their maneuver, and to give you space if they do something silly.
A lot of people don't do that, and it buggers things up for people trying to drive "properly" and keep to lane 1 unless overtaking, because they can't get back out thanks to the persistent stream of dozy b
ds in lane 2.
This is one of the things that I love about driving on the less congested autoroutes in French. Their discipline and awareness is continually excellent. A lot of people don't do that, and it buggers things up for people trying to drive "properly" and keep to lane 1 unless overtaking, because they can't get back out thanks to the persistent stream of dozy b
ds in lane 2.bolidemichael said:
This is one of the things that I love about driving on the less congested autoroutes in French. Their discipline and awareness is continually excellent.
France has 5.1 fatalities per 100,000 population - UK has 2.8 fatalities per 100,000 population (OECD 2018 for 2017)Len Woodman said:
bolidemichael said:
This is one of the things that I love about driving on the less congested autoroutes in French. Their discipline and awareness is continually excellent.
France has 5.1 fatalities per 100,000 population - UK has 2.8 fatalities per 100,000 population (OECD 2018 for 2017)It might be mad max off the autoroute, and deathless bliss on Autoroutes. Let's see... (sorry, different years here, but I'm not writing a thesis, just making a pedantic point).
1.8 deaths per billion km on tolled Autoroutes in 2015, vs. 2.25 deaths per billion km on UK motorways in 2017.
Source for the French data
Source for the UK data (PDF warning)
wst said:
ichael is talking about autoroutes in comparison to British motorways, not all roads in France in comparison to all roads in Britain.
It might be mad max off the autoroute, and deathless bliss on Autoroutes. Let's see... (sorry, different years here, but I'm not writing a thesis, just making a pedantic point).
1.8 deaths per billion km on tolled Autoroutes in 2015, vs. 2.25 deaths per billion km on UK motorways in 2017.
Source for the French data
Source for the UK data (PDF warning)
I knew someone would touch on that! A very good, and accurate point. A good investigation, for a thesis perhaps, would be to find out why this occurs in France and, I believe Germany and other countries. The USA might also show this and their roads death rate is appalling. It might be mad max off the autoroute, and deathless bliss on Autoroutes. Let's see... (sorry, different years here, but I'm not writing a thesis, just making a pedantic point).
1.8 deaths per billion km on tolled Autoroutes in 2015, vs. 2.25 deaths per billion km on UK motorways in 2017.
Source for the French data
Source for the UK data (PDF warning)
Len Woodman said:
wst said:
ichael is talking about autoroutes in comparison to British motorways, not all roads in France in comparison to all roads in Britain.
It might be mad max off the autoroute, and deathless bliss on Autoroutes. Let's see... (sorry, different years here, but I'm not writing a thesis, just making a pedantic point).
1.8 deaths per billion km on tolled Autoroutes in 2015, vs. 2.25 deaths per billion km on UK motorways in 2017.
Source for the French data
Source for the UK data (PDF warning)
I knew someone would touch on that! A very good, and accurate point. A good investigation, for a thesis perhaps, would be to find out why this occurs in France and, I believe Germany and other countries. The USA might also show this and their roads death rate is appalling. It might be mad max off the autoroute, and deathless bliss on Autoroutes. Let's see... (sorry, different years here, but I'm not writing a thesis, just making a pedantic point).
1.8 deaths per billion km on tolled Autoroutes in 2015, vs. 2.25 deaths per billion km on UK motorways in 2017.
Source for the French data
Source for the UK data (PDF warning)
Compare French tolled routes with our tolled routes.
Compare all French motorways with all our motorways.
untakenname said:
Yesterday was an eye opener when it came to driving standards, I'm used to driving on the M25 with commuters which means tailgating and aggressive driving but on the whole the traffic flows quite freely.
Ended up driving to Luton airport due to railway engineering works and came across so many imbeciles who seemingly venture onto the motorway for once a year and would far prefer the usual 9-5'ers.
Despite being in a loud car and intimidating car I was repeatedly cut up by people not looking before changing lanes and having to scrub off speed but the icing on the cake was this throbber who in a 50mph zone was driving along the middle of the lines at 45mph, I passed him still in lane which perhaps counts as an undertake which woke him up where he then became rather irate gesticulating and mouthing off at me.
Noticed he had a dashcam and could be a dcw so saved the evidence on mine just incase
Edit: Just realised the times out on the top dashcam.
The original white lines have been painted over and temporary lane markers for the new lanes put down. This is because you are travelling through a road work section where the near side limit of the road has been moved inwards narrowing the lanes. You can clearly see the temporary barrier half way across lane 1 and the temporary lane markers. You were most definitely in the wrong here with respect to your lane positioning. Maybe you should pay more attention to your own driving than trying to police other drivers by driving dangerously close to them?Ended up driving to Luton airport due to railway engineering works and came across so many imbeciles who seemingly venture onto the motorway for once a year and would far prefer the usual 9-5'ers.
Despite being in a loud car and intimidating car I was repeatedly cut up by people not looking before changing lanes and having to scrub off speed but the icing on the cake was this throbber who in a 50mph zone was driving along the middle of the lines at 45mph, I passed him still in lane which perhaps counts as an undertake which woke him up where he then became rather irate gesticulating and mouthing off at me.
Noticed he had a dashcam and could be a dcw so saved the evidence on mine just incase
Edit: Just realised the times out on the top dashcam.
Edited by untakenname on Sunday 21st April 19:27
vonhosen said:
Why just French tolled autoroutes?
Compare French tolled routes with our tolled routes.
Compare all French motorways with all our motorways.
There is 1 toll motorway in the UK.Compare French tolled routes with our tolled routes.
Compare all French motorways with all our motorways.
76% of autoroutes are tolled.
The more sensible comparison is "majority of top-grade high speed roads" regardless of whether or not they are tolled. But as I said, I'm not doing a thesis, so I got some simple figures. Feel free to find figures yourself, I was just illustrating a quick and dirty point.
ericmcn said:
No surprises for guessing what car this is...
constantly get slated for these type of posts but may as well post up a video - the driver must have done some impressive over and undertaking in the space of 25 minutes considering i was doing the most of 80 for all that time said car was the only one I seen under take on the A34 on the 2nd video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYizbz2asXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YREuoVjIki8
Comments turned off on YouTube surprise.constantly get slated for these type of posts but may as well post up a video - the driver must have done some impressive over and undertaking in the space of 25 minutes considering i was doing the most of 80 for all that time said car was the only one I seen under take on the A34 on the 2nd video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYizbz2asXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YREuoVjIki8
Jabbah said:
untakenname said:
Yesterday was an eye opener when it came to driving standards, I'm used to driving on the M25 with commuters which means tailgating and aggressive driving but on the whole the traffic flows quite freely.
Ended up driving to Luton airport due to railway engineering works and came across so many imbeciles who seemingly venture onto the motorway for once a year and would far prefer the usual 9-5'ers.
Despite being in a loud car and intimidating car I was repeatedly cut up by people not looking before changing lanes and having to scrub off speed but the icing on the cake was this throbber who in a 50mph zone was driving along the middle of the lines at 45mph, I passed him still in lane which perhaps counts as an undertake which woke him up where he then became rather irate gesticulating and mouthing off at me.
Noticed he had a dashcam and could be a dcw so saved the evidence on mine just incase
Edit: Just realised the times out on the top dashcam.
The original white lines have been painted over and temporary lane markers for the new lanes put down. This is because you are travelling through a road work section where the near side limit of the road has been moved inwards narrowing the lanes. You can clearly see the temporary barrier half way across lane 1 and the temporary lane markers. You were most definitely in the wrong here with respect to your lane positioning. Maybe you should pay more attention to your own driving than trying to police other drivers by driving dangerously close to them?Ended up driving to Luton airport due to railway engineering works and came across so many imbeciles who seemingly venture onto the motorway for once a year and would far prefer the usual 9-5'ers.
Despite being in a loud car and intimidating car I was repeatedly cut up by people not looking before changing lanes and having to scrub off speed but the icing on the cake was this throbber who in a 50mph zone was driving along the middle of the lines at 45mph, I passed him still in lane which perhaps counts as an undertake which woke him up where he then became rather irate gesticulating and mouthing off at me.
Noticed he had a dashcam and could be a dcw so saved the evidence on mine just incase
Edit: Just realised the times out on the top dashcam.
Edited by untakenname on Sunday 21st April 19:27
What he said.. you can clearly see in your rear view cam everyone else using the temporary lanes.. and despite owning a “loud and intimidating car”, and thought he might be a DCW so posted driver doing no wrong on a public forum making you a ...... really, FFS! Top trolling.
Edited by MDUBZ on Friday 25th October 18:17
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