Who's at fault?

[Pothole]

RobM77 said:

Y Cymro said:

RobM77 said:

Dashcams are the best way to avoid these sorts of things, and despite the general mood over on GG against them, I think they're worth every penny.

Excuse my ignorance but what’s GG?

Sorry, GG = "General Gassing". Everyone on there seems to think dashcam owners are all You Tubers out trying to get footage. Speaking for friends and family who have them, this is nonsense - they're there for insurance claims and nothing else. I never used mine for a personal claim, but I did help out someone else whose new van got damaged when a lorry coming the other way hit a low tree, had its trailer collapse and then get dragged down the road with the driver seemingly unaware. I e-mailed the guy the footage and it all got sorted.

Not sure your small sample of anecdata trumps the millions of YouTube vids, though...

[RobM77]

Pothole said:

RobM77 said:

Y Cymro said:

RobM77 said:

Dashcams are the best way to avoid these sorts of things, and despite the general mood over on GG against them, I think they're worth every penny.

Excuse my ignorance but what’s GG?

Sorry, GG = "General Gassing". Everyone on there seems to think dashcam owners are all You Tubers out trying to get footage. Speaking for friends and family who have them, this is nonsense - they're there for insurance claims and nothing else. I never used mine for a personal claim, but I did help out someone else whose new van got damaged when a lorry coming the other way hit a low tree, had its trailer collapse and then get dragged down the road with the driver seemingly unaware. I e-mailed the guy the footage and it all got sorted.

Not sure your small sample of anecdata trumps the millions of YouTube vids, though...

That’s just faulty logic at play. There are loads of You Tube videos of BMW owners doing burnouts and doughnuts. Does that mean the average BMW owner does them?... There are also loads of videos of cyclists doing stunts and jumps - does that mean the average cyclist leaps over walls every day?

The fact is that nobody posts videos up of their uneventful drives to Tesco, work, or the swimming pool on a Monday evening. The absence of these mundane videos from You Tube is not evidence of their absence from existence. The overwhelming majority of dashcam footage is just normal mundane driving from people worried about insurance fraud. If you start looking for them, you'll see that all sorts of perfectly normal people run dashcams. I ran a dashcam in my last two cars, totalling 130,000 miles (about 2,600 hours). I know you'll dismiss this as anecdotal, but I don't think I'm unusual in that in those 130,000 miles I witnessed just one minor accident. No crazy stuff happening, no huge shunts, no meteorites - nothing made it onto You Tube! Furthermore, one worrying fact is that I've been involved in two car accidents in my 25 years of driving high mileages and both involved insurance fraud from someone else.

Edited by RobM77 on Friday 3rd July 09:40