"IAM Observer" Dashcam disaster
Discussion
dundarach said:
The most amazing thing about this is that Ashley has 50k+ subs....
It worries me that this is his instructional ability. I would take a hard look at myself... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdT8GwiOtPcRobb F said:
PhilAsia said:
I was an ADI for many years and I would think it would be very rare to not know about RoSPA or IAM.
I can think of maybe 3 friends who might know what they are, everyone else wouldn't have a clueIt's a bit like a UK accountant not knowing who PWC or KPMG are.
I knew about the IAM and advanced driving years before I was old enough to learn to drive, thanks to a pile of IAM magazines that my parents bought as part of a box of books at a jumble sale.
When I did learn, in 1981, my instructor belong to IAM, and LSD (League of Safe Drivers), as well as being an ADI (of course).
When I did learn, in 1981, my instructor belong to IAM, and LSD (League of Safe Drivers), as well as being an ADI (of course).
PhilAsia said:
Clear, concise instruction...
His not knowing about IAM was telling...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdT8GwiOtPc
Did he say he didn't know about IAM, or he didn't know what an Observer was which is a something completely different?His not knowing about IAM was telling...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdT8GwiOtPc
His commentaries are to an excellent advanced standard. Are some of you disagreeing with that?
waremark said:
Did he say he didn't know about IAM, or he didn't know what an Observer was which is a something completely different?
His commentaries are to an excellent advanced standard. Are some of you disagreeing with that?
I disagree with the ‘no signal needed’ as they turned off the first roundabout. It would have helped the cyclists crossing, and at least embedded observation.His commentaries are to an excellent advanced standard. Are some of you disagreeing with that?
Pica-Pica said:
I disagree with the ‘no signal needed’ as they turned off the first roundabout. It would have helped the cyclists crossing, and at least embedded observation.
He has posted 773 videos - I don't know which one you may be referring to. I would challenge any of us to post 773 videos and not include anything which on reflection could have been done better!waremark said:
Did he say he didn't know about IAM, or he didn't know what an Observer was which is a something completely different?
His commentaries are to an excellent advanced standard. Are some of you disagreeing with that?
Clear, concise verbal instruction is what was previously required. The instruction for two of the roundabouts was not clear: His commentaries are to an excellent advanced standard. Are some of you disagreeing with that?
1) at the roundabout
2) turn/follow the road to the left/right/ahead
3) that's the 1st/2nd/65th exit
When the student is making too much/little progress, the instructor should give verbal instruction "a little) less gas/more gas", and, if the dual controls are used then the student should be informed as to why. "A little less gas" and questioning the student would have been swifter when complying with maximum limits, as would " more gas'' and getting the student to elicit as to why they should make progress to the posted limit in that instance.
The van "look right" was late instruction, and the instructor seemed flustered/angered by the close proximity of the following vehicle, which was picked up and affected the actions of the student, etc.
I have seen other videos where he gives very good instruction, but it is patchy. Probably better than many I have seen though.
waremark said:
Pica-Pica said:
I disagree with the ‘no signal needed’ as they turned off the first roundabout. It would have helped the cyclists crossing, and at least embedded observation.
He has posted 773 videos - I don't know which one you may be referring to. I would challenge any of us to post 773 videos and not include anything which on reflection could have been done better!Salted_Peanut said:
While I’m glad the IAM has taken action (according to Ashley), the whole thing smells odd.
It’s blindingly obvious how crap the driving is, so why would anyone – let alone an IAM Observer – send this footage to a YouTube channel? I know Ashley reported that the driver was an IAM Observer, but I find it hard to believe that one of them wasn’t making it up.
The one person with anything to gain from this footage was Ashley (more people looking at his YouTube channel). But it could also be a "fake Observer" to blame.
Old post but I cannot help but agree. In my opinion the whole IAM thing is a ponces game for those who still drive like a learner but want a badge to excuse it... It’s blindingly obvious how crap the driving is, so why would anyone – let alone an IAM Observer – send this footage to a YouTube channel? I know Ashley reported that the driver was an IAM Observer, but I find it hard to believe that one of them wasn’t making it up.
The one person with anything to gain from this footage was Ashley (more people looking at his YouTube channel). But it could also be a "fake Observer" to blame.
Ashley is a nice guy but I cannot listen to the stuff he says. If you listen to everything he says you literally wouldn't get anywhere as he is basically a grown up learner... He is of course a good driver in terms of following the road but I mean come on, the guy had an M3 and stuck to 30.
What annoys me is when he speaks about bad overtakes when in reality they are fine. I just think "just because you wouldn't do it mate doesn't mean us proper drives wouldn't".
Dixy said:
Making progress is a fundamental tenet of both IAM and Roada, you may find trying either does not fit your preconceptions.
I am aware, but not in the sense of most drivers it doesn't. Making progress is indeed a fundamental park of the advanced driving tests however, it is only really 'making progress' when compared to a normal learner. If you watch and advanced driver on YouTube they are still slowing in places where it is not necessary like Ashley does, giving far to much space at times and not overtaking when it is obviously safe to do so. Ashley would be a nightmare to be stuck behind and to say he is an 'advanced driver' is a bit of an overstatement in my opinion as to be 'experienced learner' would be more appropriate. I understand the push for safety and all that, but I do think AN takes it a little to far to the point where it gets tedious.
The 'making progress' bit on the advanced test is nothing like making progress in the real world with an condifdent driver who bends the rules; the latter would leave the former behind.
150234 said:
If you watch and advanced driver on YouTube they are still slowing in places where it is not necessary like Ashley does
I think I know what you mean, but could you clarify? Is it the advanced driver or AN who's slowing in places where it's not necessary, giving far too much space at times and not overtaking when it is obviously safe to do so?dvenman said:
I think I know what you mean, but could you clarify? Is it the advanced driver or AN who's slowing in places where it's not necessary, giving far too much space at times and not overtaking when it is obviously safe to do so?
There are hundreds of videos of advanced drivers on YT an most of them do a good job so I would say it's mostly Ashely as there are several videos where he says "I am just going to back off and reduce risk" when the risk was small to start with and all that he has done is upset the person behind. I don't doubt that AN is a good driver BUT there are two types of good drivers on the roads. There is the good driver in terms of safety and religiously follwing the rule book and then there is a good driver in the real world outside the world of learner drivers. My girlfriend just passed her test (as in Monday) so has 4 days experiance compared to Ashley's 27 years but to be honest she gets places far quicker and I really don't feel any less safe than I would with Ashley. She doesn't slow when it's not needed, get's her foot down when it's clear and doesn't ponce around with lanes changes and 'leaving space'.
Ashley IS a good driver when compared to a learner but compare him to someone like myself who isn't a rule book cult follower and just 'drives' as I see fit he is average at best.
Dixy said:
An AD will talk about IPSCA and a track driver will talk about slow in fast out, they are same thing. Perhaps now your GF has passed her test you might both like to join IAM together.
I disagree that they are anything other than vaguely related.By the way what does the C stand for?
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