People who accelerate to block overtake

[Mr Miata]

theplayingmantis said:

I think the standard of driving has tanked in the last 3 years. I think people are scared and have no ability to overtake on single carriageways any more typically (hence the long queues of road trains on certain a/b roads that you get despite ample overtaking opportunities) and thus anyone seen to be doing it by those dawdling see it as a heinous crime.
Supporting my theory on the standards of driving, If on occasion I'm not getting a move on myself in NSL or 50's, or am and have someone up my arse who seemingly wants to get pas but isn't going by, or i can see I'm holding someone up on stretch where its tricky to overtake, i will slow down and indicate left when the road ahead is clear and safe for them to overtake, but more often than not they just slow with me and even if getting to a near stop will blindly do the same. In day light a hand out the window waving them buy has to be done if they just sit there and wont go past

I can perhaps excuse those who genuinely don't realize that they are holding others up and when overtaken wake up and do nearer the limit if safe, but those who try to police the road at what they deem a safe speed attitude is beyond me...

I have a theory that it could be an ageing population that might not be fit enough to drive. For example, deteriorating eyesight or lacks the confidence or ability to drive at 60 mph in a 60 limit.

As they drive across two different counties at 20mph below the speed limit, with a 2 mile tailback of traffic behind them, these “road captains” are then outraged that the young un’s have the cheek to overtake them where it’s safe to do so on a 1 mile long straight. How dare they disrespect Karen.

The elephant in the room is who is the dangerous driver in this story.

[theplayingmantis]

I don't think it is an ageing population, at least on that stretch from what i can see when doing it in daylight, its a complete mix and no clear labeling of any demographic.

[mickyh7]

theplayingmantis said:

I don't think it is an ageing population, at least on that stretch from what i can see when doing it in daylight, its a complete mix and no clear labeling of any demographic.

I'm in my 60's, and still drive like a Tw*t occasionally!
So I doubt it's age related.

[Glosphil]

I recall a police driver saying to me many years ago that a fast driver is one who overtakes more times than he is overtaken. At 75 years of age that still applies to me.

[DJP]

I had this knobbery the other day.

30 limit, I'm on main road. Dick Face pulls out from a side street pretty much right in front of me (yes, I was anticipating it - hence no crash) and then proceeds to drive along at 20mph, in a 30.

So after about half a mile of this I overtake him, deliberately not exceeding 30 in the process, and the C U Next Tuesday flashes me.

So of course I gave him a wave and, since he was limiting his speed, I limited the number of fingers I used.

Fair is, after all, fair.

[Pothole]

carreauchompeur said:

Not all doom and gloom out there…following 3 cars behind an inexplicably slow van on a rural a road. Very limited gaps so it was a ‘4 or nothing’ overtake which probably wouldn’t have been on. To my delight they ALL picked up their skirts and got by it!

I was 50/50 as to whether the Mondeo would go for it, so was in a position to get past if they didn’t. Perfect view. Lovely.

Edited by carreauchompeur on Thursday 16th December 14:23

Vans often go slow to stop things falling over in the back, or sliding around.

[theplayingmantis]

Pothole said:

ans often go slow to stop things falling over in the back, or sliding around.

yep they do but should pull over every so often to let people past if going significantly slow.

[MiseryStreak]

theplayingmantis said:

yep they do but should pull over every so often to let people past if going significantly slow.

And also limited to 50 on a single-carriageway, 60 on a dual-carriageway. Which is unknown to most people as a) They’re thick s and; b) A large number of van drivers drive like they have a flux capacitor on board and they want to travel back to a time when they had hair and could still see their winky.

[theplayingmantis]

MiseryStreak said:

And also limited to 50 on a single-carriageway, 60 on a dual-carriageway. Which is unknown to most people as a) They’re thick s and; b) A large number of van drivers drive like they have a flux capacitor on board and they want to travel back to a time when they had hair and could still see their winky.

Its a basic part of the HC and in theory test so i hope people know it!

[carreauchompeur]

Er yeah, it wasn’t even approaching 50. 30mph most of the way!

[DocSteve]

DJP said:

I had this knobbery the other day.

30 limit, I'm on main road. Dick Face pulls out from a side street pretty much right in front of me (yes, I was anticipating it - hence no crash) and then proceeds to drive along at 20mph, in a 30.

So after about half a mile of this I overtake him, deliberately not exceeding 30 in the process, and the C U Next Tuesday flashes me.

So of course I gave him a wave and, since he was limiting his speed, I limited the number of fingers I used.

Fair is, after all, fair.

Overtaking in a 30mph limit even if the subject vehicle is only doing 20mph is likely to be dangerous. Additionally you abused the other driver which is unnecessary and increases the risk of road rage and/or distraction from the task in hand i.e. driving.

Without knowing the 30 limit road it's hard to say how dangerous it was but generally there will be lots of junctions, driveways, pedestrians etc and they won't be expecting a vehicle to be travelling on the other side of the road. Your phrase "deliberately not exceeding 30mph" suggests your driving plan with regard to the overtake was not well thought out and based on some sort of retribution.

You may flame me for my comments but based on yours, you need a lesson and I'm dishing it out. Nothing personal.

[aka_kerrly]

There is a lovely stretch of nsl road near where I live with just 1 village in a several mile stretch which is a 40limit.

It is staggering how many people do 30-40 along the well sighted sections and then do 45 through the village.

It's amusing backing down to 2nd or 3rd gear at 40 , waiting for someone to be right behind and planting it at the nsl sign....childish yes.

[Johnnytheboy]

But wouldn't they be pulling away from you?

If they were doing 45 and you 40?

[aka_kerrly]

Johnnytheboy said:

But wouldn't they be pulling away from you?

If they were doing 45 and you 40?

No, maybe I wasn't clear. These are the people behind me having caught up by accelerating going into the 40mph 1/2 mile village that I have slowed down for.

[Djtemeka]

Johnnytheboy said:

But wouldn't they be pulling away from you?

If they were doing 45 and you 40?

He wrote it misleading but I thing the nice road was a nsl and the village rd was a 40 zone but the wombles drive too slow on the nsl then speed through the village.

The 40 mph brigade

[dimots]

I don’t see any point in overtaking someone travelling at 20 in a 30. Surely the risk/reward ratio makes it not worth doing?

[Johnnytheboy]

aka_kerrly said:

Johnnytheboy said:

But wouldn't they be pulling away from you?

If they were doing 45 and you 40?

No, maybe I wasn't clear. These are the people behind me having caught up by accelerating going into the 40mph 1/2 mile village that I have slowed down for.

Ah gotcha, still half asleep.

[Welshbeef]

Likes far far too short to get stressed about it.

Leave them to it be polite get on with your day.

[anonymous-user]

Djtemeka said:

Johnnytheboy said:

But wouldn't they be pulling away from you?

If they were doing 45 and you 40?

He wrote it misleading but I thing the nice road was a nsl and the village rd was a 40 zone but the wombles drive too slow on the nsl then speed through the village.

The 40 mph brigade

I love the 40mph brigade and their sense of entitlement. In fact, I love the sense of british entitlement and the automatic assumption that anyone who isnt them doing something to them is a dick.

[CoolHands]

dimots said:

I don’t see any point in overtaking someone travelling at 20 in a 30. Surely the risk/reward ratio makes it not worth doing?

I do sometimes depending on the road etc. some people are s and can hold you up for the next mile, through traffic lights etc. I bin em off and then they don’t aggravate me. Eg a 30 becomes a 40 further up and you just know this wker is going to frustrate you at 25 along there.