A question re: overtaking
Discussion
Picture the scene:
3 lane road with one lane protected by a solid white line on my side and a dotted white line adjacent to it on the opposite side giving 2 lanes going in the opposite direction to me.
If I am riding a motorcycle and the car in front of me pulls over to his left giving me room to overtake without the need to cross the solid white line I have always understood it to be OK to overtake (always accompanied by a wave to acknowledge the driver's courtesy for moving over.)
So far so good, except that I was recently advised by a traffic plod that the act of overtaking even if NOT crossing the solid white line to do so was not allowed and this came as a surprise to me. i should add that I was not ticketed, just given "words of advice".
I was always under the impression that the offence was "crossing the solid white line" and not "overtaking" and this particular plod thought otherwise.
I've been riding this way for years and have never come across this problem before and I have no intention of changing my interpretation of the solid-white-line rule but i would welcome your comments. :-)
3 lane road with one lane protected by a solid white line on my side and a dotted white line adjacent to it on the opposite side giving 2 lanes going in the opposite direction to me.
If I am riding a motorcycle and the car in front of me pulls over to his left giving me room to overtake without the need to cross the solid white line I have always understood it to be OK to overtake (always accompanied by a wave to acknowledge the driver's courtesy for moving over.)
So far so good, except that I was recently advised by a traffic plod that the act of overtaking even if NOT crossing the solid white line to do so was not allowed and this came as a surprise to me. i should add that I was not ticketed, just given "words of advice".
I was always under the impression that the offence was "crossing the solid white line" and not "overtaking" and this particular plod thought otherwise.
I've been riding this way for years and have never come across this problem before and I have no intention of changing my interpretation of the solid-white-line rule but i would welcome your comments. :-)
I think you’re ok…
Rule 165
You MUST NOT overtake
if you would have to cross or straddle double white lines with a solid line nearest to you (but see Rule 129)
if you would have to enter an area designed to divide traffic, if it is surrounded by a solid white line
Rule 129 is about double whites so the relevant rule is ^
Rule 165
You MUST NOT overtake
if you would have to cross or straddle double white lines with a solid line nearest to you (but see Rule 129)
if you would have to enter an area designed to divide traffic, if it is surrounded by a solid white line
Rule 129 is about double whites so the relevant rule is ^
eAyeAddio said:
Picture the scene:
3 lane road with one lane protected by a solid white line on my side and a dotted white line adjacent to it on the opposite side giving 2 lanes going in the opposite direction to me.
Not relevant to the question but I cannot picture/understand those road markings. What would the use of a dotted white line on the opposite side achieve? Can opposite direction traffic use all three lanes?3 lane road with one lane protected by a solid white line on my side and a dotted white line adjacent to it on the opposite side giving 2 lanes going in the opposite direction to me.
A more typical set of markings with broken lines next to a solid line on a three lane road is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.886267,0.1507302,3...
Either direction traffic can use the centre lane, traffic from right to left has priority. The solid line tell opposite direction traffic they cannot use your lane.
If traffic in your direction cannot cross the double line system then I would expect a solid line on both sides like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8858162,0.1490648,...
Same road, a bit to the left.
What am I missing?
waremark said:
eAyeAddio said:
Picture the scene:
3 lane road with one lane protected by a solid white line on my side and a dotted white line adjacent to it on the opposite side giving 2 lanes going in the opposite direction to me.
Not relevant to the question but I cannot picture/understand those road markings. What would the use of a dotted white line on the opposite side achieve? Can opposite direction traffic use all three lanes?3 lane road with one lane protected by a solid white line on my side and a dotted white line adjacent to it on the opposite side giving 2 lanes going in the opposite direction to me.
A more typical set of markings with broken lines next to a solid line on a three lane road is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.886267,0.1507302,3...
Either direction traffic can use the centre lane, traffic from right to left has priority. The solid line tell opposite direction traffic they cannot use your lane.
If traffic in your direction cannot cross the double line system then I would expect a solid line on both sides like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8858162,0.1490648,...
Same road, a bit to the left.
What am I missing?
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5205633,-0.2915529...
eAyeAddio said:
I was always under the impression that the offence was "crossing the solid white line" and not "overtaking" and this particular plod thought otherwise.
Cross OR straddle the white line, so no part of your motorcycle can even straddle the line. If you've kept totally on the left of the line, no problem at all with overtaking.I teach it, but not 'into' oncoming traffic, for example, being the 'meat in the sandwich' scenario.
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