Changing gear on level Crossing?

Changing gear on level Crossing?

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spikep

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468 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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My wife was taught to change gear when going over a train level crossing, the theory was that it smoothed the ride. Anyone heard of this theory?

Background
She was taught this when she learnt to drive in the 80’s by the then Lincolnshire Police driving instructor. Her father had also been the Lincolnshire Police’s senior Road Safety Officer.

My son was arguing that a modern car would not need to do this and that there is more potential for the vehicle to fail during the transition.

Pica-Pica

13,821 posts

85 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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Never heard that, sounds cobblers. Select the gear before any hazard.
As a side note, I am surprised how many people play ‘follow-my-leader’ over level crossings, and don’t leave sufficient gap for the vehicle in front to clear the crossing.

Riley Blue

20,978 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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Smooths the ride? Did he have a smile on his face when he said that?

@ P-P also when overtaking long vehicles.


ScoobyChris

1,693 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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Need a bit more context really as I can’t see how it smooths the ride (changing gear should be imperceptible to passengers anyway) and Roadcraft has always taught getting the car set up *before* the hazard and not during it.

Can you walk us through her approach to a level crossing - maybe there is something I’m missing?

Chris

Dogwatch

6,230 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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Some level crossings were really rough in the past and the last thing I would have been interested in, while grimly hanging on to the wheel, was changing gear.
These days Network Rail have put in rubber pads (from old tyres?) between the rails giving a much smoother crossing so more time to deal with actual driving.

WilliamWoollard

2,345 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd August 2023
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Depressing the clutch disconnects the drivetrain from the engine thereby reducing wear/damage that may occur driving over uneven surface?

I've heard the same relating to speed bumps.

Somewhatfoolish

4,371 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Sounds like she's misremembering being taught to gently accelerate over it (which does smooth the ride, as with speed bumps)

PhilAsia

3,821 posts

76 months

Wednesday 9th August 2023
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WilliamWoollard said:
Depressing the clutch disconnects the drivetrain from the engine thereby reducing wear/damage that may occur driving over uneven surface?

I've heard the same relating to speed bumps.
This is my understanding.

We have no template for speed bumps here in Asia and, if I am not stopping momentarilly and then easing the vehicle over, I frequently slow so that the vehicle's inertia (just) takes it over the hump with the clutch down.

fawadalam4514

3 posts

9 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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spikep said:
My wife was taught to change gear when going over a train level crossing, the theory was that it smoothed the ride. Anyone heard of this theory?

Background
She was taught this when she learnt to drive in the 80’s by the then Lincolnshire Police driving instructor. Her father had also been the Lincolnshire Police’s senior Road Safety Officer.

My son was arguing that a modern car would not need to do this and that there is more potential for the vehicle to fail during the transition.
Hey folks,

Interesting tidbit there! I've been driving for quite some time, and I've come across various driving theories, some of which might sound odd today. Changing gears while going over a train level crossing to smooth out the ride is a new one for me, but I can see where the thought might have originated, especially if taught by a police driving instructor back in the '80s.

Car technologies and road infrastructures have come a long way since then. Modern vehicles are designed with better suspension systems, and many train crossings have been improved over the years to provide a smoother transition.

Your son has a point about modern cars. There's arguably a greater risk of a hiccup if you change gears on the crossing itself, especially if it's unnecessary. While I respect traditional driving methods and the wisdom that comes from seasoned drivers, it might be worth reassessing some of these older techniques with today's vehicles in mind.

Would love to hear if anyone else has come across similar driving nuggets from yesteryears!
Cheers,
Ahmad

Somewhatfoolish

4,371 posts

187 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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fawadalam4514 said:
spikep said:
My wife was taught to change gear when going over a train level crossing, the theory was that it smoothed the ride. Anyone heard of this theory?

Background
She was taught this when she learnt to drive in the 80’s by the then Lincolnshire Police driving instructor. Her father had also been the Lincolnshire Police’s senior Road Safety Officer.

My son was arguing that a modern car would not need to do this and that there is more potential for the vehicle to fail during the transition.
Hey folks,

Interesting tidbit there! I've been driving for quite some time, and I've come across various driving theories, some of which might sound odd today. Changing gears while going over a train level crossing to smooth out the ride is a new one for me, but I can see where the thought might have originated, especially if taught by a police driving instructor back in the '80s.

Car technologies and road infrastructures have come a long way since then. Modern vehicles are designed with better suspension systems, and many train crossings have been improved over the years to provide a smoother transition.

Your son has a point about modern cars. There's arguably a greater risk of a hiccup if you change gears on the crossing itself, especially if it's unnecessary. While I respect traditional driving methods and the wisdom that comes from seasoned drivers, it might be worth reassessing some of these older techniques with today's vehicles in mind.

Would love to hear if anyone else has come across similar driving nuggets from yesteryears!
Cheers,
Ahmad
Quite honestly the whole 'G' part of the system is not far off becoming irrelevant.

I forsee future debates about position/speed overlap smile

911hope

2,710 posts

27 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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WilliamWoollard said:
Depressing the clutch disconnects the drivetrain from the engine thereby reducing wear/damage that may occur driving over uneven surface?

I've heard the same relating to speed bumps.
Better do this for every pothole or bit of rough road then......

ScoobyChris

1,693 posts

203 months

Monday 21st August 2023
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WilliamWoollard said:
Depressing the clutch disconnects the drivetrain from the engine thereby reducing wear/damage that may occur driving over uneven surface?
I've heard this but the OP specifically mentioned changing gear rather than just declutching?

Chris

Reg Local

2,681 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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I’ve heard this old chestnut before. The truth is that changing gear on a crossing masks any roughness in the gearchange!

Somewhatfoolish

4,371 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2023
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Reg Local said:
I’ve heard this old chestnut before. The truth is that changing gear on a crossing masks any roughness in the gearchange!
I get the "theory" there but isn't it as likely to make your clutch pedal wobble about adding roughness? Bit like if you accelerate way too hard in something spicy having not released the clutch and then that makes you release it too hard and then it bites and derp (maybe not explaining this well as you have to be doing something wrong for it to happen in first place)

PhilAsia

3,821 posts

76 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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ScoobyChris said:
WilliamWoollard said:
Depressing the clutch disconnects the drivetrain from the engine thereby reducing wear/damage that may occur driving over uneven surface?
I've heard this but the OP specifically mentioned changing gear rather than just declutching?

Chris
Thanks. Missed that bit. If the surface warranted it (or I was unsure) I would disengage the drive whether a gearchange was or wasn't necessary.

Stiggolas

324 posts

148 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Hmm, I think I get it...if you're trying to make a bit of progress, you may spin the wheels on a railway line or bridge expansion section and possibly lose control. If you change gear whilst driving over said obstacle, you're less likely to have issues. Makes sense to me.

Somewhatfoolish

4,371 posts

187 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Stiggolas said:
Hmm, I think I get it...if you're trying to make a bit of progress, you may spin the wheels on a railway line or bridge expansion section and possibly lose control. If you change gear whilst driving over said obstacle, you're less likely to have issues. Makes sense to me.
Hope that's a joke

nismo48

3,709 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Stiggolas said:
Hmm, I think I get it...if you're trying to make a bit of progress, you may spin the wheels on a railway line or bridge expansion section and possibly lose control. If you change gear whilst driving over said obstacle, you're less likely to have issues. Makes sense to me.
Hope that's a joke
Hmmmmm

Lincsls1

3,337 posts

141 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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What a load of bks! biglaugh
Given that many of these crossings are actually rather bumpy, the best thing to do is slow down before it, keep a firm grip on the wheel with both hands and do any (manual) gear changes either before or after.

Jimbo893

32 posts

108 months

Sunday 15th October 2023
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When I completed my Police Advanced a few years ago, the instructor stated that it used to be taught (many, many years ago) to de-clutch going over level crossings to save mechanical load on the drive train. It’s obviously no longer a thing.