Another IAM/ROSPA/HPC question...

Another IAM/ROSPA/HPC question...

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7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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CadenceWebsite said:

Hugh Noblett, Director of Training, is recognised as one of the most enthusiastic high performance driving coaches and his unique style has been deeply instilled within each member of The Team.

Hugh instructed at Metropolitan Police Motor Driving School, Hendon from 1969 to 1986. After a period of training Police novices he moved to the Advanced Wing and trained Officers up to Class 1 standard and beyond. He eventually became a senior instructor, responsible for training new instructional staff. After retiring from Hendon, Hugh spent a time as a co-driver with High Performance Course Ltd, training enthusiasts and specialised members of the armed forces.

Although Hugh's passion may be driving his beloved Caterham 7 1600 SuperSport - his talent for adapting to driving any vehicle is renowned. If you ask Hugh for a demonstration, you'll be amazed at how smooth he is with the car controls, and how his artistry enables any car to flow cross-country with no obvious effort.


From www.cadence.co.uk

StressedDave

839 posts

263 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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ipsg.glf said:

StressedDave

Did Hugh get a Class 1?
Does this mean that John/Hugh were allowed to teach/instruct up to Class 1 standard?


Both got a Class I but AFAIK (John didn't stay long enough to gravitate to the Advanced Wing) only Hugh actually taught Class I advanced courses.

Joe911

2,763 posts

236 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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7db said:
CadenceWebsite said:
... and trained Officers up to Class 1 standard and beyond.

From www.cadence.co.uk

So, in police terms - what is "beyond" Class 1 - is there another standard/level?

omegac

358 posts

220 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Joe911 said:

So, in police terms - what is "beyond" Class 1 - is there another standard/level?


Only to be an instructor.

StressedDave

839 posts

263 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Joe911 said:
7db said:
CadenceWebsite said:
... and trained Officers up to Class 1 standard and beyond.

From www.cadence.co.uk

So, in police terms - what is "beyond" Class 1 - is there another standard/level?


There are other specialist courses, e.g. National Protection (anti-hijack stuff). Nothing new from a Roadcraft point of view, but certainly some new techniques to learn.

doctorpepper

5,124 posts

239 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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xiphias said:

So, after my test, where should I go? I have seriously contemplated becoming an observer, but at the lowly age of 21, I'm not sure whether I'd fit in or be "mature" enough to coach (I'll do more research into this).

and breathe...

I passed my IAM when I was 22 and then did my observer and senior observer very quickly after this... My group took the opportunity to encourage more young people into the group and I did in fact runa 6th form assembly on the advantages of the IAM at my old school and managed to draw in a lot of new members, some even brought their parents as well.
Having recently joined the HPC I can honestly say that I should have done it sooner!

MarkKendrick

7 posts

215 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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I'm an ex-police 'class 1' driver and trainer and I've been driven by John Lyon on a few occasions on both road and track. On the evidence of those few drives I believe John to be one of the best all-round drivers in existence.

jamesallport

31 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Hugh Noblett introduced me to advanced driving (when I was 18). John Lyon taught me for HPC entry. Both are outstanding drivers. For all but a tiny handful of the driving population, Hugh, John or anyone like them will be streets ahead. For mere mortals like me, there comes a point beyond which it doesn't matter how good a driver the coach is because they're so much better than me that it's irrelevant. What counts is their ability to coach me to improve. In this respect, although I am not one of the people who "fell out" with John Lyon in my car - and enjoyed his training - others have suited me much better. Hugh has a much less didactic approach that I preferred, for example. But as in most of this stuff, your mileage may vary. Just don't forget that you are the customer. If you want to pay to be blown away by the quality of the demonstration drive, that's one thing. But most of us are paying to have our own driving improved as well.

Joe911

2,763 posts

236 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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MarkKendrick said:
... I believe John to be one of the best all-round drivers in existence.

He told you that did he?

StressedDave

839 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Joe911 said:
MarkKendrick said:
... I believe John to be one of the best all-round drivers in existence.

He told you that did he?


Now, now, play nicely boys...

Of course it is worth reiterating the point that taking a course with John will not qualify you for membership of the High Performance Club - there are three people who can (see www.hpc.org.uk for further details) if that's what you want.

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Of course there is a gulf of difference between a good driver and a good driving coach, and how rare it is that the two coexist in one person.

MarkKendrick

7 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th June 2006
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Joe911 said:
MarkKendrick said:
... I believe John to be one of the best all-round drivers in existence.

He told you that did he?


You've met John, I take it?

7db said: "Of course there is a gulf of difference between a good driver and a good driving coach, and how rare it is that the two coexist in one person."

Unfortunately, you're right.

vonhosen

40,262 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th June 2006
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7db said:
Of course there is a gulf of difference between a good driver and a good driving coach, and how rare it is that the two coexist in one person.


Unfortunately how rare it is to get just one in a person