keeping UP to the speed limit...

keeping UP to the speed limit...

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gridgway

1,001 posts

246 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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covert ops said:
Gridgway unless you are elderly and with failing eyesight I fail to see how you can not know what the limits are. Also 99% of the time if there is a scamera everyone in front would have slowed down anyway. Basically I just dont understand how anybody cant know the limit. I excuse the elderly/frail and failing vision!!


Loads of reasons why I think that...there are some appallingly marked speed limits around and in some places, repeaters are miles apart. Another is just by watching other drivers and asking (what a great passenger I am!). On my first IAM observed drive, my observer asked me what the limit was in a 40 that looked by all accounts to be a 30 (it's heavily built up, 40 makes no sense). The observer said that most people got it wrong. As I said there are those that have no problems (you are one) and a lot (in my view) that do.

Graham
PS I can see fine with my monocle in and I'm only on my first zimmer!

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Wednesday 18th October 2006
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covert ops said:
I pulled in behind him and gave him 20 seconds of full beam and a beep of the horn.


CPS said:
Examples of conduct appropriate for a charge of driving without reasonable consideration are:

* flashing of lights to force other drivers in front to give way;

Cr@ig

3 posts

211 months

Wednesday 18th October 2006
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The following goes some way towards defining the offence of Inconsiderate Driving and is an extract from the website of the CPS. I hope this contribution proves useful.


This offence is appropriate when the driving amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness. There must, however, also be some inconvenience to other road users, for example, forcing other drivers to move over and/or brake as a consequence. Examples of conduct appropriate for a charge of driving without reasonable consideration are:

* flashing of lights to force other drivers in front to give way;
* misuse of any lane to avoid queuing or gain some other advantage over other drivers;
* unnecessarily remaining in an overtaking lane;
* unnecessarily slow driving or braking without good cause;
* driving with un-dipped headlights which dazzle oncoming drivers;
* driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed;
* driving a bus in such a way as to scare the passengers.

Note that you must decide which version of the offence to charge as the section creates two separate offences and there is no alternative verdict provision in the Magistrates/Youth court. (R-v-Surrey Justices, ex parte Witherick [1932] 1 K.B. 450).

gridgway

1,001 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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* unnecessarily slow driving [or braking without good cause];


so what would constitute that in a NSL 60 single carriageway assuming good conditions etc for travelling at 60?
58?, 10? 40? 30?

A - W

1,718 posts

216 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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gridgway said:


* unnecessarily slow driving [or braking without good cause];


so what would constitute that in a NSL 60 single carriageway assuming good conditions etc for travelling at 60?
58?, 10? 40? 30?



GLF? evil

gridgway

1,001 posts

246 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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A - W said:
gridgway said:


* unnecessarily slow driving [or braking without good cause];


so what would constitute that in a NSL 60 single carriageway assuming good conditions etc for travelling at 60?
58?, 10? 40? 30?



GLF? evil


excellent!! Could that be the new GLF chapter of IAM?