oversteer on a constant radius bend

oversteer on a constant radius bend

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GreenV8S

30,236 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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slinky said:
The strange transition point between the two is when you try to have a little innocent low speed fun on a mini island in the wet and get what appears to be understeer and oversteer at the same time.. most peculiar!


Four wheel drift?

slinky

15,704 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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GreenV8S said:
slinky said:
The strange transition point between the two is when you try to have a little innocent low speed fun on a mini island in the wet and get what appears to be understeer and oversteer at the same time.. most peculiar!


Four wheel drift?


Ish, but at 7-8mph around a v. slippy mini island, squeeze of throttle just after turn in, front end begins to wash wide at the same time as the back end steps out... as I say, v. low speed so it was gathered up quickly and I went on my merry way...

slinky

pentoman

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4,814 posts

264 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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Thanks all for the comments. I have since returned to the same place armed with what you have said (with a lookout to ensure area is clear!). I am now thinking more about the balance of the car and this line it is taking, and not just assuming that raw power will automatically bring the back out in any situation. It is actually quite nice to learn that it isn't trying to swap ends every time you put your foot on the accelerator!

leadfootlydon

329 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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pentoman said:
It is actually quite nice to learn that it isn't trying to swap ends every time you put your foot on the accelerator!


Ah, that'll be the difference between a Merc and a TVR, then.

stephenperry

167 posts

234 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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leadfootlydon said:
That is a famous clip. I would *love* to know the story behind it. Is it real?


it's a scene that was shot for the 2005 remake of the Dukes of Hazzard film

www.imdb.com/title/tt0377818/

leadfootlydon

329 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th December 2006
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stephenperry said:
leadfootlydon said:
That is a famous clip. I would *love* to know the story behind it. Is it real?


it's a scene that was shot for the 2005 remake of the Dukes of Hazzard film

www.imdb.com/title/tt0377818/



Thanks. So it was a 'real stunt' not a CGI fake and not some local lads 'aving a larf (which is what I was hoping. Oh well).

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th December 2006
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I can confirm that my 2.0 190E went sideways a lot easier than my Cosworth. I put this down to the hydraulic suspension and better tied down chassis of the Cosworth.

I've never had trouble getting any Caterham sideways - I had most fun at Elvington in a 115 bhp Roadsport on Michelin Pileups - dreadful tyres, a slippery surface and sideways fun all day. But in general they almost correct themselves, and this is a trait I've also found with the Cosworth too - the hallmark of a well balanced chassis?

I can't unsettle the Cosworth in the dry at all on the public road. In the wet, a squirt of power is enough to get the tail out in 2nd gear and at a speed where the resulting slide is not going to get me into trouble. I do want to see whether it is posible to hold the car in a drift though - one of Andy Walsh's North Weald handling days ought to do the trick...

GravelBen

15,726 posts

231 months

Saturday 9th December 2006
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leadfootlydon said:
stephenperry said:
leadfootlydon said:
That is a famous clip. I would *love* to know the story behind it. Is it real?


it's a scene that was shot for the 2005 remake of the Dukes of Hazzard film

www.imdb.com/title/tt0377818/



Thanks. So it was a 'real stunt' not a CGI fake and not some local lads 'aving a larf (which is what I was hoping. Oh well).



yes that would be Rhys Millen driving, he can handle a car alright...