What level of training does panda car plod have?
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On my way home tonight I was pulled over for 'speeding'. My crime was a high of 50mph on a long straight (four cars wide) with no cars towards and...NSL in force. I questioned the fact that not only is it a 60 limit on this road but also on the road I'd turned in off! His reply was "you've only just turned onto this road and just slow it down". We had a little discussion about the local signs (e.g. Where's your guide dog, Mr Policeman? 
) after which I concluded that he couldn't tell the difference between
and
Just a little rant as I've taken offence to my driving skill being questioned.
) after which I concluded that he couldn't tell the difference between and
Just a little rant as I've taken offence to my driving skill being questioned.
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
Thats the funniest thing I've heard all day.
OK - its only 8:53 AM
7db said:
goochie said:
Thats the funniest thing I've heard all day.
OK - its only 8:53 AM
OK - its only 8:53 AM
Off to pick up my car from service. Always amusing to see what they've found...
Do you think they'll have found any evidence of a suspension system that's suitable for the carriage of aged and frail passengers?
Best wishes all,
Dave.
StressedDave said:
TripleS said:
Do you think they'll have found any evidence of a suspension system that's suitable for the carriage of aged and frail passengers?
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
Is this the first car you've not fallen asleep in?
Ratbag! Your memory's too good.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
I have a lot of respect for you, your threads and posts in other threads.
Your initial thread showed one with motoring in their blood.
However, should you really be posting such as this?
This is learner motorist stuff, basic Highway Code.
From you, to reveal that a member of our Police Force is not conversant in those basics is, to me, rather scary.
What if that Officer had stopped me?
You are telling us that a Constabulary somewhere in the UK has unleashed an Officer upon the Public without a basic knowledge of Traffic Law.
The Chief Constable of that Force should resign.
For the training regime is obviously completely useless.
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
I have a lot of respect for you, your threads and posts in other threads.
Your initial thread showed one with motoring in their blood.
However, should you really be posting such as this?
This is learner motorist stuff, basic Highway Code.
From you, to reveal that a member of our Police Force is not conversant in those basics is, to me, rather scary.
What if that Officer had stopped me?
You are telling us that a Constabulary somewhere in the UK has unleashed an Officer upon the Public without a basic knowledge of Traffic Law.
The Chief Constable of that Force should resign.
For the training regime is obviously completely useless.
Blimey, that's a bit extreme, isn't it? The OP was having a whinge about a Police Officer not knowing what the speed limit was. I was giving another example of the same thing.
I'm not really sure that a Chief Constable should resign because one of his officers made a minor mistake over a speed limit, should they?
In my case, the Officer involved was extremely apologetic and had made a genuine mistake. I'd never have complained about him, and I'd never reveal who he was or where it happened. It was just an anecdote to show that people in all occupations can sometimes make mistakes. This particular Officer worked on section, and as such he wasn't a road traffic specialist, and if I'm being honest, I'd accelerated "briskly" up to 70MPH, and it possibly looked like I was going faster than that when he first decided to follow me.
If the worst came to the worst and he'd have reported me, it would have been an embarrassing day in court for him, and that would have been the case whatever my occupation was.
R_U_LOCAL said:
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
I have a lot of respect for you, your threads and posts in other threads.
Your initial thread showed one with motoring in their blood.
However, should you really be posting such as this?
This is learner motorist stuff, basic Highway Code.
From you, to reveal that a member of our Police Force is not conversant in those basics is, to me, rather scary.
What if that Officer had stopped me?
You are telling us that a Constabulary somewhere in the UK has unleashed an Officer upon the Public without a basic knowledge of Traffic Law.
The Chief Constable of that Force should resign.
For the training regime is obviously completely useless.
Blimey, that's a bit extreme, isn't it? The OP was having a whinge about a Police Officer not knowing what the speed limit was. I was giving another example of the same thing.
I'm not really sure that a Chief Constable should resign because one of his officers made a minor mistake over a speed limit, should they?
In my case, the Officer involved was extremely apologetic and had made a genuine mistake. I'd never have complained about him, and I'd never reveal who he was or where it happened. It was just an anecdote to show that people in all occupations can sometimes make mistakes. This particular Officer worked on section, and as such he wasn't a road traffic specialist, and if I'm being honest, I'd accelerated "briskly" up to 70MPH, and it possibly looked like I was going faster than that when he first decided to follow me.
If the worst came to the worst and he'd have reported me, it would have been an embarrassing day in court for him, and that would have been the case whatever my occupation was.
No, I'm not sure that is a bit extreme.
Going to Court would have incurred unnecessary Public, ie, Taxpayers' expense.
Mrs. WhoseGeneration is a Public Servant, at a reasonably high level, in a different sphere.
She has to be so aware of all the implications of her occupation and the possible implications of her every decision and action.
The training of those under her and their responsibilities under many Laws and Government requirements occupy much of her time.
She has to ensure that decisions they make cannot be challenged in the Courts.
If she failed in that she could lose her job.
She is not part of the Law Enforcement system.
Is it too much to ask that those who enforce the Law are at least aware of the Law?
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
I have a lot of respect for you, your threads and posts in other threads.
Your initial thread showed one with motoring in their blood.
However, should you really be posting such as this?
This is learner motorist stuff, basic Highway Code.
From you, to reveal that a member of our Police Force is not conversant in those basics is, to me, rather scary.
What if that Officer had stopped me?
You are telling us that a Constabulary somewhere in the UK has unleashed an Officer upon the Public without a basic knowledge of Traffic Law.
The Chief Constable of that Force should resign.
For the training regime is obviously completely useless.
Blimey, that's a bit extreme, isn't it? The OP was having a whinge about a Police Officer not knowing what the speed limit was. I was giving another example of the same thing.
I'm not really sure that a Chief Constable should resign because one of his officers made a minor mistake over a speed limit, should they?
In my case, the Officer involved was extremely apologetic and had made a genuine mistake. I'd never have complained about him, and I'd never reveal who he was or where it happened. It was just an anecdote to show that people in all occupations can sometimes make mistakes. This particular Officer worked on section, and as such he wasn't a road traffic specialist, and if I'm being honest, I'd accelerated "briskly" up to 70MPH, and it possibly looked like I was going faster than that when he first decided to follow me.
If the worst came to the worst and he'd have reported me, it would have been an embarrassing day in court for him, and that would have been the case whatever my occupation was.
No, I'm not sure that is a bit extreme.
Going to Court would have incurred unnecessary Public, ie, Taxpayers' expense.
Mrs. WhoseGeneration is a Public Servant, at a reasonably high level, in a different sphere.
She has to be so aware of all the implications of her occupation and the possible implications of her every decision and action.
The training of those under her and their responsibilities under many Laws and Government requirements occupy much of her time.
She has to ensure that decisions they make cannot be challenged in the Courts.
If she failed in that she could lose her job.
She is not part of the Law Enforcement system.
Is it too much to ask that those who enforce the Law are at least aware of the Law?
Shouldn't get to court.
Should be picked up & weeded out by the supervisor who countersigns the report, who should then endeavour to make sure that any training issues are addressed.
vonhosen said:
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
I have a lot of respect for you, your threads and posts in other threads.
Your initial thread showed one with motoring in their blood.
However, should you really be posting such as this?
This is learner motorist stuff, basic Highway Code.
From you, to reveal that a member of our Police Force is not conversant in those basics is, to me, rather scary.
What if that Officer had stopped me?
You are telling us that a Constabulary somewhere in the UK has unleashed an Officer upon the Public without a basic knowledge of Traffic Law.
The Chief Constable of that Force should resign.
For the training regime is obviously completely useless.
Blimey, that's a bit extreme, isn't it? The OP was having a whinge about a Police Officer not knowing what the speed limit was. I was giving another example of the same thing.
I'm not really sure that a Chief Constable should resign because one of his officers made a minor mistake over a speed limit, should they?
In my case, the Officer involved was extremely apologetic and had made a genuine mistake. I'd never have complained about him, and I'd never reveal who he was or where it happened. It was just an anecdote to show that people in all occupations can sometimes make mistakes. This particular Officer worked on section, and as such he wasn't a road traffic specialist, and if I'm being honest, I'd accelerated "briskly" up to 70MPH, and it possibly looked like I was going faster than that when he first decided to follow me.
If the worst came to the worst and he'd have reported me, it would have been an embarrassing day in court for him, and that would have been the case whatever my occupation was.
No, I'm not sure that is a bit extreme.
Going to Court would have incurred unnecessary Public, ie, Taxpayers' expense.
Mrs. WhoseGeneration is a Public Servant, at a reasonably high level, in a different sphere.
She has to be so aware of all the implications of her occupation and the possible implications of her every decision and action.
The training of those under her and their responsibilities under many Laws and Government requirements occupy much of her time.
She has to ensure that decisions they make cannot be challenged in the Courts.
If she failed in that she could lose her job.
She is not part of the Law Enforcement system.
Is it too much to ask that those who enforce the Law are at least aware of the Law?
Shouldn't get to court.
Should be picked up & weeded out by the supervisor who countersigns the report, who should then endeavour to make sure that any training issues are addressed.
No, this is not good enough.
Here we are talking about basic traffic law.
If that Officer has so little knowledge there, what other laws did (s)he have little knowledge of?
Many laws (s)he would be required to enforce.
Field day for Defence Lawyers, or CPS saying no.
Whatever, an Officer who should not have been passed as fit to be "on the streets or roads".
Still, that's what goes these days.
WhoseGeneration said:
vonhosen said:
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
WhoseGeneration said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
I was stopped for speeding a while back - I was doing 70MPH on a national speed limit dual carriageway.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
The Officer who stopped me was insistant that the limit was 60MPH until I pointed out where I worked and what I did and suggested he should come back for some re-training.
I have a lot of respect for you, your threads and posts in other threads.
Your initial thread showed one with motoring in their blood.
However, should you really be posting such as this?
This is learner motorist stuff, basic Highway Code.
From you, to reveal that a member of our Police Force is not conversant in those basics is, to me, rather scary.
What if that Officer had stopped me?
You are telling us that a Constabulary somewhere in the UK has unleashed an Officer upon the Public without a basic knowledge of Traffic Law.
The Chief Constable of that Force should resign.
For the training regime is obviously completely useless.
Blimey, that's a bit extreme, isn't it? The OP was having a whinge about a Police Officer not knowing what the speed limit was. I was giving another example of the same thing.
I'm not really sure that a Chief Constable should resign because one of his officers made a minor mistake over a speed limit, should they?
In my case, the Officer involved was extremely apologetic and had made a genuine mistake. I'd never have complained about him, and I'd never reveal who he was or where it happened. It was just an anecdote to show that people in all occupations can sometimes make mistakes. This particular Officer worked on section, and as such he wasn't a road traffic specialist, and if I'm being honest, I'd accelerated "briskly" up to 70MPH, and it possibly looked like I was going faster than that when he first decided to follow me.
If the worst came to the worst and he'd have reported me, it would have been an embarrassing day in court for him, and that would have been the case whatever my occupation was.
No, I'm not sure that is a bit extreme.
Going to Court would have incurred unnecessary Public, ie, Taxpayers' expense.
Mrs. WhoseGeneration is a Public Servant, at a reasonably high level, in a different sphere.
She has to be so aware of all the implications of her occupation and the possible implications of her every decision and action.
The training of those under her and their responsibilities under many Laws and Government requirements occupy much of her time.
She has to ensure that decisions they make cannot be challenged in the Courts.
If she failed in that she could lose her job.
She is not part of the Law Enforcement system.
Is it too much to ask that those who enforce the Law are at least aware of the Law?
Shouldn't get to court.
Should be picked up & weeded out by the supervisor who countersigns the report, who should then endeavour to make sure that any training issues are addressed.
No, this is not good enough.
Here we are talking about basic traffic law.
If that Officer has so little knowledge there, what other laws did (s)he have little knowledge of?
Many laws (s)he would be required to enforce.
Field day for Defence Lawyers, or CPS saying no.
Whatever, an Officer who should not have been passed as fit to be "on the streets or roads".
Still, that's what goes these days.
How's it a field day for defence lawyers, if it doesn't get to the issue of a summons ?
People make mistakes in every job. We're accountable for them but we all make mistakes.
vonhosen said:
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How's it a field day for defence lawyers, if it doesn't get to the issue of a summons ?
People make mistakes in every job. We're accountable for them but we all make mistakes.
How's it a field day for defence lawyers, if it doesn't get to the issue of a summons ?
People make mistakes in every job. We're accountable for them but we all make mistakes.
True there, no CPS involvement, no other Lawyers involved.
Still though, I question that this Officer is on duty.
Feeling that they can enforce laws they clearly have little knowledge of.
We may have to agree to differ here.
You, as a serving Officer, required to uphold the many Laws on the Statute book, might like to think about this though.
Policing by consent, I believe, is the theory.
My consent is less by the day.
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