RE: Driving the green way?

RE: Driving the green way?

Thursday 3rd May 2007

Driving the green way?

IAM gives advice on eco-driving



We've just received this press release from the Institute of Advanced Motorists entitled 'Ten tips to save the Planet (and your fuel bills). See what you think.

"With global warming now high on everybody's agenda, there has never been a better time to think about eco-driving.

Regardless of the vehicle you are driving, there are techniques you can use to save fuel and to minimise your impact on the environment. These techniques have been part of the advanced driving process, delivering eco-benefits through fuel efficiencies since the IAM was established in 1956.

 Ask yourself: "Do I really need to drive?" It's the shortest journeys - less than two miles - which cause the most pollution and are inefficient in terms of fuel consumption. A straining cold engine will produce 60 per cent more pollution than a warm one. Yet it's these shorter journeys that are ideal for walking or cycling.

 Plan your route. A bit of forethought can save much wear and tear - for the car, and the driver. Try to take the most direct route and go off peak if possible. Sitting in congestion means you are often doing zero miles per gallon. If you have to commute by car, think about car sharing, Park and Ride schemes or public transport.

 Have your vehicle serviced regularly. This helps maintain efficient running and good economy. Inefficient, under-serviced engines can reduce fuel economy by ten per cent or more. Catalytic converters are environmentally friendly - but only if they are properly maintained.

 Check your tyres. Correct tyre pressures will keep wear down and fuel economy up. Under-inflated tyres need replacing more often (itself an environmental problem) as well as being dangerous. Anybody who has cycled on under-inflated tyres will appreciate how much extra effort is involved! Make a point of checking them at least once a week.

 Obey the speed limits. Try to "feather" the throttle as you reach your cruising speed. Doing 56mph uses 25 per cent less fuel than 70mph and a smoother driving style can bring significant fuel saving. But never coast to save fuel; vehicle control must not be compromised.

 Reduce the drag factor by removing roof racks and carriers when not in use. Driving with the window open also increases drag and lowers fuel economy. Remove unnecessary boot luggage; avoid heavy accessories and wide tyres that add rolling resistance. Air conditioning lowers fuel economy so use the vent settings as much as possible instead.

 Buy green fuel - and use less of it. If you know you are going to be stationary for a while, for example at a level crossing, switch off the engine. Find out if you can buy low sulphur diesel (City diesel) or cleaner petrol (low sulphur/aromatics) locally.

 Use "accelerator" sense. Do you go straight from the accelerator to the brake? You would save fuel if you planned ahead, and rather than have to brake as you hit traffic, gently let the speed of the vehicle bring you to a halt as you join a queue. There is no point in rushing and then having to brake to come to a sudden halt.

 Reverse in when you park. When you start off again, the engine will be cold and at its most fuel inefficient. If you can drive smoothly away without having to reverse when the engine is cold, not only will you save fuel you will also have better visibility.

Be a tank miser. Why fill the tank up to the very brim? If you do so, you may be carrying around additional fuel, which in turn means that you have more weight on board than is necessary. That extra weight will itself reduce fuel efficiency".

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Original Poster:

4,922 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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All very well, but what has any of this got to do with saving the planet? confused

havoc

30,090 posts

236 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Haven't you realised - the car is now the work of the devil, motorists are public enemy #1, and should be apologising to rapists and paedophiles (not for anything, just for being motorists), and all roads are a blight on our 'green and pleasant land', and the sooner we're all riding around in horses and carts the better off our nation will be!!!

banghead banghead cry




Oh...and what the **** is "Aromatic petrol"?!? Ted's new aftershave?

Timberwolf

5,347 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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A little bit of a wasted opportunity, I think. There's some good driving advice buried in there, but it's sandwiched between all the things everyone else goes on about like roof racks and tyre pressures.

Wouldn't it be good if we could abuse the fad for trendy cod-environmentalist "save the planet" lifestyle statements, and get people to renounce their numpty driving and properly conserve momentum, avoid sharp movements, plan ahead and so on in the name of the environment.

Ideally it would need some kind of trendy lifestyle object to go with it (no good saving the planet unless you get to wear a big "I'm saving the planet!" badge after all), I'm guessing perhaps a tilt switch or accelerometer that illuminates an externally visible, "I'm a green driver!" sign if no sharp braking or cornering has taken place recently?

(Added bonus - with that design, it would switch off when the driver went over a speed hump.)

markh450

85 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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are they suggesting its a good idea to drive at 56 mph on a motorway to save on fuel!!! sounds like a recipe for getting tailgated to me!

tigger1

8,402 posts

222 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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What's all this bollards about 56mph!?

Isnt' that specific to one car, under certain conditions? Isn't there a lot more to the argument than simply speed? (E.g. 70mph in 6th compared with 56mph in 2nd, or at best 5th)

Agree about acceleration sense though.

bunglist

545 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Well some of it is just common sense, and the rest is Bcensoreds

Why is everyone going so made on cars causing global warming. They are not!!!!!!!

Anyway, if we get weather like we have had in April every year, then I am for a bit of Global warming.

(Just thinking out loud)
Surely if the planet warms up slightly then everyone will not have to have there central heating on as long each year thus saving on Carbon Immisions, not as much energy in general will be used thus saving on Carbon Immisions, also with more sunny weather, we can start setting up solar farms. And thus reduce polution without shafting the drivers!!!!!

Everyone always seem to look at the bad side,(especially a Labour Government, so they can tax us some more "Wancensoreds"and never look at the bigger picture and the good points.

daveco

4,130 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Here's a few other tips...
-Ignore traffic lights, use pathway if free
-Wax the front of your car for less drag
-Grab hold of passing motorbikes to pull you along
-Speed up to 100mph, switch off engine and coast as far as possible
-Buy a siren and some flashing lights
-Drive nude. Saves weight
-Steal fuel

spokey

2,246 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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daveco said:
Here's a few other tips...
-Ignore traffic lights, use pathway if free
-Wax the front of your car for less drag
-Grab hold of passing motorbikes to pull you along
-Speed up to 100mph, switch off engine and coast as far as possible
-Buy a siren and some flashing lights
-Drive nude. Saves weight
-Steal fuel


Fold your back seat down.
Only put £10's worth of fuel in at a time.
Make sure your glovebox and boot are empty.
...

Timberwolf

5,347 posts

219 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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daveco said:
-Grab hold of passing motorbikes to pull you along


I'm thinking now. For urban journeys, rather than using my petrol-swilling V6 engine, I could harness a few mopeds and their riders to the front of my car and get them to pull it along, much like horses or husky dogs.

Would that be more economical...? scratchchin

jonathanrees

191 posts

206 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Fact is, that the pollution comes from EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO DRIVES, the vast majority of whom have never/will never visit a race track in their lives and have a limited interest in driving. Those of us who do input only a negligable amount of carbon emissions into the air as a percentage of the overall driving population.

With the increase of bio-fuel/electric/etc/etc cars onto the market at low run-of-the-mill prices and designs we will see a huge drop in driving based emissions in this country and hopefully the world. They are becoming socailly acceptable and reasonable in performance and styling. A good thing needless to say.

I simply don't think this 'opposite body' to drivers (which lets face it will be 99.9% drivers anyway) are expecting Nick Mason to give up his 250GTO just because it uses fuel.

The problem therein lies that we, as enthusiasts, assume that we are the targets, whereas acctually it is the general driving public which is at fault.

I thank you.

madasahatter

374 posts

268 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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There seem to be lots of questions that are unanswered in that piece.

People get hot in cars, that is obvious. So which is best? Open windows or A/C? once the cabin is cooled, the A/C doesn't work that hard, whereas open windows create large amounts of drag.

I also question the 56mph thing. On the beemer which is an Auto, at 56mph the 'box keeps unlocking, and going into fluid clutch mode. That isn't too fuel efficient. Above 60mph the 'box locks and becomes more efficient. So, that isn't perfect advice IMO

ed.

2,174 posts

239 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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"Be a tank miser. Why fill the tank up to the very brim? If you do so, you may be carrying around additional fuel, which in turn means that you have more weight on board than is necessary. That extra weight will itself reduce fuel efficiency"

Doesnt this mean more trips to the fuel station, which if they keep closing means going out of your way more often?
Also isn't his a good way to get your true MPG, which inturn indicates how well your vehicle is running?

sprinter885

11,550 posts

228 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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TBH- I'm getting a bit sick of all this Global Warming, carbon emissions, cars are evil etc etc bo**ox. How come suddenly everybody's jumping on the "carbon neutral" bandwagon? A couple of years ago this stuff was not in the public domain like it is now, so how come after a few thousand years of evolution us humans suddenly got "clever" in the past 2-3 years & now magically have found the solution to "saving the planet" ? Are we really that confident that carbon emissions are the cause? If so- a bit bloody late I'd say. I remember the fifties (Ok ancient I know) when cars belched out more emissions per engine than now (OK there were fewer) BUT at the same time industry was MUCH MUCH more polluting & noxious fumes abounded, together with smog etc and no controls existed. So if it's taken 50+ years for that effect to accumulate (if that's a contributor) then I bet anything it will take at least as long , probably longer, to reverse that.
For my money I'm with Prof. Piers Corbin & a few other notable meteorological types and blame our old friend the Sun (Not the paper !!)& the "natural cycles" theory.
Rant over- shall I close the door??

spokey

2,246 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Gosh, imagine that, another bunch of panty-wedged killjoys telling us all how to live our lives.

Whatever next?

malaccamax

1,260 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Ah Adam, you are bating us with your IAM press releases. Wouldn't just know it'd prompt a lot of head-butt smileys? Anyway, the IAM has nicked this advice lock stock from the Channel4 4car Drive Greener bit, which was a lot less po-faced.

www.channel4.com/4car/ft/feature/feature/6394/1

RobPhoboS

3,454 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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'FK OFF'


Is what I'd say to those involve.




Yep I'm mature me.

new scot

208 posts

232 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Move to sunny Scotland. The roads are much less congested, and driving's still fun...

And more tips:

Never take passengers over 10 stone.
Young female passengers should dress lightly (unless they are your daughter/s).
Always park in the shade.
Don't rev up next to younger drivers at the lights, it only encourages them.
Remove unnecessary things that add weight to your car, eg tax disc, spare phone chargers, empty pizza boxes, "Now that's what I call muzak" CDs, and antique polo mints.
Don't go to out of town megastores as they sell you too many offers which are heavy
Avoid busy motorways
No trackdays
No trips to Le Mans
No trips to difficult relatives

It's endless and pointless - let's keep driving whle we can!


m12_nathan

5,138 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Vodka Margarine

6,631 posts

215 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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Artical said:
Ask yourself: "Do I really need to drive?


Yep, for fun & to keep my sanity.

Mr Whippy

29,071 posts

242 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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If industry sorted it's life out we could see more savings.

Have limits of packaging.

Manufacturing energy reduced.

Raw material requirement reduced, so reducing extraction costs (energy) and transport costs of that material.

Less to recycle saving energy.

Less mass to transport to supermarket and to homes, saving lots of energy.


ONE little thing like packaging savings can have HUGE benefits.

What gets me the most is that everything else appears to be ignored. Multiple layers of wank wrapping and over-designed branding crap are NOT essential to me, driving to work is!

I won't alter my driving habits until industry changes theirs and stops wasting tonnes of crap every year. I wonder how much easter costs the environment every year for example. All that bloody cardboard and plastic for about 50g of chocolate!

Dave