What car has the best pedal set up for heel and toe?

[HRG]

sleep envy said:

misunderstood said:

WhoseGeneration said:

misunderstood said:

One shouldn't be heel and toeing on the public roads anyway!

Who says?.

The law says. Heel and towing is for swift actions and things should be taken at a slower pace while driving on the road. I don't even heel and toe in my racing car.

I think you might be misunderstood here



oh..

back O/T - 205 GTIs have a great set up if you have a size 9 or smaller

as to 911's still fiddling with my pedals after 18 months but still can't get it quite right

Should have bought a TVR, they're excellent

[OperationAlfa]

My GTA has excellent pedals for Heal and toeing.

[KevJ]

RS Focus, in fact most last generation Fords are pretty good!

R33 Skyline as well!

[sleep envy]

HRG said:

sleep envy said:

misunderstood said:

WhoseGeneration said:

misunderstood said:

One shouldn't be heel and toeing on the public roads anyway!

Who says?.

The law says. Heel and towing is for swift actions and things should be taken at a slower pace while driving on the road. I don't even heel and toe in my racing car.

I think you might be misunderstood here



oh..

back O/T - 205 GTIs have a great set up if you have a size 9 or smaller

as to 911's still fiddling with my pedals after 18 months but still can't get it quite right

Should have bought a TVR, they're excellent

don't have the 7 months spare a year to rebuild it

[Baron Reg]

Combover said:

Mazda MX-5 pedals are nicely spaced and well-weighted for H&T.

Unexpectedly, I really struggle to H&T the other half's mk2.5 MX-5. I'm OK in my 911 (996).

I had a test drive in a TVR T350 last weekend. That was superb (not just for H&T)

[AL600-or-so]

What relative heights between pedals do people recommend for ease of H&Ting?

Should, for example, the least of the accelerator's travel be level with the furthest of the brake's?

[chrisbr68]

Red Devil said:

Rob_F said:

Rossy15 said:

I found that my '95 MR2 and my current '02 Celica T-Sport are fantastic for heel and toe.

I've also found the mark2 MR2 to be the best car to do it in, as the pedals are close enough both width wise and also pedal height when on the brakes.

+1
The combination of a silky throttle and properly weighted servo action.
So many modern Euroboxes are over-servoed which makes it far harder to get right.

Ill go with this, its certainly the best I have come across so far. I do find I have to wear narrow shoes though as if I wear something more clunky I find it just doesnt work as the pedals are pretty close together! Not as close as the VX though, that was more of a roll of the foot which never really worked for me.

[RobM77]

AL600-or-so said:

What relative heights between pedals do people recommend for ease of H&Ting?

Should, for example, the least of the accelerator's travel be level with the furthest of the brake's?

That's an interesting point I set up my road going Caterham so that the brake and accelerator were level under mild braking such as I might do on the road. For my racing Caterham, the two pedals are level when I'm threshold braking heavily on track. Ideally, the brake pedal travel needs to be fairly minimal to avoid this quandry. I think this is why BMWs are so good for heel and toe actually, their servo assisted brakes don't have much travel. Once you get into servos though you get into the other issue, and that's the sensitivity of the pedal... Most people will vary the brake pedal pressure whilst fulcruming off it to blip the throttle, and the key to a good pedal setup is one which doesn't react to these pressure variations. Porsche do this especially well, as did BMW before the E92.

How about "worst car for heel toe" I'd vote for an Audi A4 or maybe a Toyota Avensis. Both have widely spaced pedals with an incredibly sensitive brake pedal. If you choose the petrol versions of both cars you also get a delay on the accelerator pedal, so you have to alter your timing

[Logie]

I H&T in my 944 often, its easy to do and i've been practicing doing it on my racing wheel & pedals for online gaming (GTR2, Race 07, rFactor etc) that i now do it in my car without thinking some times.

Its great doing it when your driving aggressive, love keeping the revs high and sweeping through bends!

[havoc]

Depends on two things:-
- The size of your feet
- Your method of heel-n-toe (i.e. outside of ball of foot onto accelerator, or twist-and-jab the heel onto the accelerator)

For me, both the Integra and the S2000 have excellent set-ups for my big feet using the 'Japanese' method (twist-and-jab-with-heel), although the S2000 pedals are also very-well set-up for the 'roll-the-ball-of-the-foot' method also (ITRs are a little widely spaced as stock).

[RobM77]

havoc said:

Depends on two things:-
- The size of your feet
- Your method of heel-n-toe (i.e. outside of ball of foot onto accelerator, or twist-and-jab the heel onto the accelerator)

For me, both the Integra and the S2000 have excellent set-ups for my big feet using the 'Japanese' method (twist-and-jab-with-heel), although the S2000 pedals are also very-well set-up for the 'roll-the-ball-of-the-foot' method also (ITRs are a little widely spaced as stock).

Just for the record the S2000 also has the best gearchange I've ever used in a car