RE: jellison's TVR Chimera 575
Discussion
Jon - lets put it like this, I have gone the whole hog as to what could be possible. LS6 not LS1, TKO not T5, not hydrualic clutch release and full Custom SS exhaust - these make it pretty expensive (and the Wortec tune up). You could do an LS1, T5 and somehow make the std exhaust fit and it would save a huge chunkof cash and be pretty cost effective at this level as selling the 500 engine and gearbox would offset maybe a little under half the cost. It would still be a crazy 5.8 litre torque monster with 350 real reliable bhp. I just wanted to show what could be done. Intend keeping it along time. But I may have a pop at doing a Tuscan or Cerb if get bored!
It would be so fairly straight forward for me to do it again, knowing what I know know - I have a few ideas for going even crazier as well....
It would be so fairly straight forward for me to do it again, knowing what I know know - I have a few ideas for going even crazier as well....
Jon - lets put it like this, I have gone the whole hog as to what could be possible. LS6 not LS1, TKO not T5, not hydrualic clutch release and full Custom SS exhaust - these make it pretty expensive (and the Wortec tune up). You could do an LS1, T5 and somehow make the std exhaust fit and it would save a huge chunkof cash and be pretty cost effective at this level as selling the 500 engine and gearbox would offset maybe a little under half the cost. It would still be a crazy 5.8 litre torque monster with 350 real reliable bhp. I just wanted to show what could be done. Intend keeping it along time. But I may have a pop at doing a Tuscan or Cerb if get bored!
It would be so fairly straight forward for me to do it again, knowing what I know know - I have a few ideas for going even crazier as well....
It would be so fairly straight forward for me to do it again, knowing what I know know - I have a few ideas for going even crazier as well....
jellison said:
Jon - lets put it like this, I have gone the whole hog as to what could be possible. LS6 not LS1, TKO not T5, not hydrualic clutch release and full Custom SS exhaust - these make it pretty expensive (and the Wortec tune up). You could do an LS1, T5 and somehow make the std exhaust fit and it would save a huge chunkof cash and be pretty cost effective at this level as selling the 500 engine and gearbox would offset maybe a little under half the cost. It would still be a crazy 5.8 litre torque monster with 350 real reliable bhp. I just wanted to show what could be done.
Fair enough. But how much should one budget if one was performing a similar conversion? I mean, are we talking £2k, £5k, £10k, £15k? I really have no idea.
jellison said:
salty-nlv said:
If you need a tusc s for your next project, how about mine?
Is it back in one piece!?
Bring it on - or Whitey - drive them like you stole them - rod through the side should have you thinking my way! Shouldn't take 2 much trying in a SP6.
Give stuart a few weeks and it should pop again
Only joking matey you Aceing this week ??
Chaps... the Cerb transplant is already under way. see
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=3&f=6&t=191696&h=0
Plan is to bring it to the CREAM event.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=3&f=6&t=191696&h=0
Plan is to bring it to the CREAM event.
jellison said:
BigGriff said:
Scole Engineering have measured up the Tuscan chassis and the bad news is that because the rails taper in the engine won't fit without cutting back the rails and repositioning.
Richard
We'll see about that.
I reckon,more likely to be belllhousing issues where the chassis tappers.
Get rid of that antique t5.
nztrev said:
jellison said:Indeed and the LS's are MUCH shorter than the very long SP6 so sit much further back - I can move engine and non T5 to where ever I need it - EASY - I'm with Whitey - "long Live Ed Roth". Will know on friday. My car next to Whitey's tape in hand.
BigGriff said:
Scole Engineering have measured up the Tuscan chassis and the bad news is that because the rails taper in the engine won't fit without cutting back the rails and repositioning.
Richard
We'll see about that.
I reckon,more likely to be belllhousing issues where the chassis tappers.
Get rid of that antique t5.
I have to say that the engine measurements are the easy bit and the real issues are all to do with bellhousing, gearboxes and routing exhausts. The Griff/Chimaera is very easy because the tunnel is a lot wider and the exhaust goes underneath. There is plenty of space. The same is not true for the Cerb or Tuscan and that is where the real problems start to happen. Also bear in mind that cutting the chassis will require a body off to do it correctly and as I have found out, that is also quite an extensive amount of work.
shpub said:The Griff/Chimaera is very easy because the tunnel is a lot wider and the exhaust goes underneath.
I have to say that the engine measurements are the easy bit and the real issues are all to do with bellhousing, gearboxes and routing exhausts. The Griff/Chimaera is very easy because the tunnel is a lot wider and the exhaust goes underneath. There is plenty of space. The same is not true for the Cerb or Tuscan and that is where the real problems start to happen. Also bear in mind that cutting the chassis will require a body off to do it correctly and as I have found out, that is also quite an extensive amount of work.
Er no it doesn't Steve. Exhuast is going forward like in std Griff / Chim as no way down the side as per Cerb std engine. It is not easy - a very experienced pipe bender did mine and it is a work of art and way better then the std TVR single pipe back to two rubbish.
Cerb system is more conventional in that the exhausts go down and back - a modified LS6 Z06 exhaust could be gotten in there with a bit of modding, and easily if the body is lifted - (which I did to check and renovate my chassis fully pre engine swap - would not even have to come right off) - alter the top chassis rail and but some bracing back and cut the fiber inner arches) can then joint to std rear of cerb system - that is Easy!
Std header are really tight to the engine (so you might have to cut the chassi - so what - easy!
What I meant was that the exhaust goes under the engine after going forward and that gives a bit more room to play with. You even have space for a LS bellhousing! That is something I would have loved to have.
I was really referring to the space and routing options that make life a little easier. On the Cerb the manifolds actually go along and the down which is why the top rails are prone to corrosion.
Yes you can cut the top rails etc etc but to be honest anything like that makes what is not a cheap job even more expensive, let alone potential problems from insurers. The Cerb transplant requires no chassis mods the way I am doing it.
Where you say you would need to cut and mod is where I have terminal rust and Tower View and myself did look at doing what you say. Cut away the GRP to get access, chop out and replace but we came to the conclusion that body off would be easier and also allow us to do a better job as we wouldn't have to worry about heating the GRP with the welding.
>> Edited by shpub on Wednesday 3rd August 15:36
I was really referring to the space and routing options that make life a little easier. On the Cerb the manifolds actually go along and the down which is why the top rails are prone to corrosion.
Yes you can cut the top rails etc etc but to be honest anything like that makes what is not a cheap job even more expensive, let alone potential problems from insurers. The Cerb transplant requires no chassis mods the way I am doing it.
Where you say you would need to cut and mod is where I have terminal rust and Tower View and myself did look at doing what you say. Cut away the GRP to get access, chop out and replace but we came to the conclusion that body off would be easier and also allow us to do a better job as we wouldn't have to worry about heating the GRP with the welding.
>> Edited by shpub on Wednesday 3rd August 15:36
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