Volvo V60 lease thread
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FiF said:
Was hoping that they'd include the smartphone integration into 2021MY, as making it an optional extra, even on top Inscription spec, always seemed a bit mean to me. One of our family fleet has the ability to use smartphone navigation even though it's a relatively cheap hatch.
I'm waiting until life opens up some more so can have a test drive to check out if the built in sat nav is as bad as reviews say it is. Folks always used to slag off the Volvo RTI system, the one where the screen folded out from the desktop and you had a little joystick control on the back of the steering wheel, but never had an issue with it using it across Europe, it was far better 15 years ago than the one I have currently from JLR. If it really is a bad system though then the smartphone addon might be worth it.
Also to test the auto, again reviewers dislike it, but their complaints of laggy reactions seem to focus around a delay when you just floor it, again just imo, if you're driving an auto like that you're doing it wrong, but there's no substitute for seeing if it suits own personal style.
The old one with a joystick control was good, had it on my S90 back in the day and can't complain. It was on par with other systems available.I'm waiting until life opens up some more so can have a test drive to check out if the built in sat nav is as bad as reviews say it is. Folks always used to slag off the Volvo RTI system, the one where the screen folded out from the desktop and you had a little joystick control on the back of the steering wheel, but never had an issue with it using it across Europe, it was far better 15 years ago than the one I have currently from JLR. If it really is a bad system though then the smartphone addon might be worth it.
Also to test the auto, again reviewers dislike it, but their complaints of laggy reactions seem to focus around a delay when you just floor it, again just imo, if you're driving an auto like that you're doing it wrong, but there's no substitute for seeing if it suits own personal style.
I've used both navigation systems, as I used the Google Map integration before the A14 was updated on the built in system. I've now gone back to the built in system. The most obvious advantage of the standard system is that it is full screen, smart phone integration only uses the lower half of the screen, also the built in system also has a simplified view on the main dashboard between the dials.
I did find the google map system was better at showing option routes and the differences in time, but inputting destinations was cumbersome.
Over all, apart from screen size, I find both are a step back from the previous system (Sensus 2014 onwards), both in capability and controllability (touch screen interface). The old system was far better to interrogate for traffic information.
The old steering wheel joystick would be a useful addition to the latest system, although the scroll wheel on the previous system worked pretty well.
I did find the google map system was better at showing option routes and the differences in time, but inputting destinations was cumbersome.
Over all, apart from screen size, I find both are a step back from the previous system (Sensus 2014 onwards), both in capability and controllability (touch screen interface). The old system was far better to interrogate for traffic information.
The old steering wheel joystick would be a useful addition to the latest system, although the scroll wheel on the previous system worked pretty well.
niva441 said:
I've used both navigation systems, as I used the Google Map integration before the A14 was updated on the built in system. I've now gone back to the built in system. The most obvious advantage of the standard system is that it is full screen, smart phone integration only uses the lower half of the screen, also the built in system also has a simplified view on the main dashboard between the dials.
I did find the google map system was better at showing option routes and the differences in time, but inputting destinations was cumbersome.
Over all, apart from screen size, I find both are a step back from the previous system (Sensus 2014 onwards), both in capability and controllability (touch screen interface). The old system was far better to interrogate for traffic information.
The old steering wheel joystick would be a useful addition to the latest system, although the scroll wheel on the previous system worked pretty well.
thanks, ordered one without the smartphone integration. If built-in nav will be terrible will retrofit smartphone integration later.I did find the google map system was better at showing option routes and the differences in time, but inputting destinations was cumbersome.
Over all, apart from screen size, I find both are a step back from the previous system (Sensus 2014 onwards), both in capability and controllability (touch screen interface). The old system was far better to interrogate for traffic information.
The old steering wheel joystick would be a useful addition to the latest system, although the scroll wheel on the previous system worked pretty well.
A general question if I may, can someone with either V60 or V90 let me know the loading height. By that I mean the height of the rear load deck above the ground. The website just lists load height as the vertical height of the tailgate aperture.
Or even a data website that lists such information
Thanks.
Just to add, there's a site for disabled but some of the info is contradictory.
V60 can be either 696mm or 627 mm. At first thought the 696mm was for the Cross Country, but it also lists 2019 V60 standard as 696mm, 2018 as 627.
V90 611mm
696mm sounds quite high to me, having said that our C3 hatch is about 790 which isn't much lower that our off roader.
Or even a data website that lists such information
Thanks.
Just to add, there's a site for disabled but some of the info is contradictory.
V60 can be either 696mm or 627 mm. At first thought the 696mm was for the Cross Country, but it also lists 2019 V60 standard as 696mm, 2018 as 627.
V90 611mm
696mm sounds quite high to me, having said that our C3 hatch is about 790 which isn't much lower that our off roader.
Edited by FiF on Thursday 14th May 15:24
niva441 said:
Sorry forgot to measure it yesterday when I actually used it. Just looked and it is 64 cm to the top of the bumper and 3.5 cm in over the boot seal. Note that mine is a Cross Country and at the moment I can't recall the exact ride height increase, I think it is about 5-6 cm.
Thanks, that fits with the figure from the ridc website for the Cross Country. Increase in rude height is indeed 55mm.Anyway currently going for the deal from Volvo UK, has to be registered and delivered before 30th June, handled by local Volvo dealer.
3+23 8k 230.79 no admin fee. XS miles 7.56p, works out 18% even if I add the 525 for winter pack.
theitalian said:
Can anyone point me in the direction of a specification for the V60 momentum plus. I can only find momentum or momentum pro models?
Thanks
Here you goThanks
https://assets.volvocars.com/uk/~/media/united-kin...
Mammasaid said:
theitalian said:
Can anyone point me in the direction of a specification for the V60 momentum plus. I can only find momentum or momentum pro models?
Thanks
Here you goThanks
https://assets.volvocars.com/uk/~/media/united-kin...
FiF said:
For the plus you need the 2020MY price list, that link takes you to the 2021MY list, there aren't many differences to be honest but there is some different structuring around certain bits and pieces. If you drop me a PM I'll email you a pdf of the 2020 spec back. Don't have Dropbox and CBA to set it up at the moment.
Done thanks.theitalian said:
FiF said:
For the plus you need the 2020MY price list, that link takes you to the 2021MY list, there aren't many differences to be honest but there is some different structuring around certain bits and pieces. If you drop me a PM I'll email you a pdf of the 2020 spec back. Don't have Dropbox and CBA to set it up at the moment.
Done thanks.You have 2 emails.
1) with attachment 2020 Rev 5 and 2021 price list
2) 2020 e brochure for V60 and V60 Cross Country.
Hope that helps.
In other news I've pulled out of my enquiry, numerous reasons, but main thing is there are some things tgat can only be judged based on actually looking at one closely plus a test drive. Pity as it's a cracking deal, but I'm in no rush time wise.
FiF said:
Hi,
You have 2 emails.
1) with attachment 2020 Rev 5 and 2021 price list
2) 2020 e brochure for V60 and V60 Cross Country.
Hope that helps.
In other news I've pulled out of my enquiry, numerous reasons, but main thing is there are some things tgat can only be judged based on actually looking at one closely plus a test drive. Pity as it's a cracking deal, but I'm in no rush time wise.
Cheers thanks for them.You have 2 emails.
1) with attachment 2020 Rev 5 and 2021 price list
2) 2020 e brochure for V60 and V60 Cross Country.
Hope that helps.
In other news I've pulled out of my enquiry, numerous reasons, but main thing is there are some things tgat can only be judged based on actually looking at one closely plus a test drive. Pity as it's a cracking deal, but I'm in no rush time wise.
My v90 D4 goes back in a couple of weeks and although there will be compromises with the V60, but it will be £50 a month cheaper than the V90 anyway so Ive put my application in. I could see what else pops up over the next couple of weeks but Sod’s law there’ll be bugger all and I’ll be without a car. My contingency plan was to buy a used XC60 2015 circa 70k miles but prefer to lease new if I can as no unexpected bills to deal with.
There's been a bit of adverse comment on other threads mainly about the allegedly dozy auto box, and in particular the stop-start system. I even commented on the general thread, no doubt to the disgust of the "thread only about deals" contingent that I particularly dislike stop-start systems as they are generally implemented and generally disable it on every trip, so a system which requires digging through multiple nested screens to get to the setting would probably be a deal breaker for me.
So I've downloaded the Volvo owner manual app, and have been browsing through the V60 manual, 700 pages of it.
Anyway I see with the Drive Mode settings, that the Dynamic Mode, as opposed to Comfort and Eco modes, automatically disables the stop-start system. Also you can select the Dynamic Mode as the preferred setup everytime you start the vehicle. Have I got that right? Any downsides? It also prattles on about adjusting suspendion settings, presumably only if you have those options. Not yet discovered how to turn stop-start off using the touch screen, only 699 pages to go.
So I've downloaded the Volvo owner manual app, and have been browsing through the V60 manual, 700 pages of it.
Anyway I see with the Drive Mode settings, that the Dynamic Mode, as opposed to Comfort and Eco modes, automatically disables the stop-start system. Also you can select the Dynamic Mode as the preferred setup everytime you start the vehicle. Have I got that right? Any downsides? It also prattles on about adjusting suspendion settings, presumably only if you have those options. Not yet discovered how to turn stop-start off using the touch screen, only 699 pages to go.
Wouldn't worry about stop start - mine seems to disable itself most of the time, even after spending some time at constant speed on dual carriageways, When it does work I find it unobtrusive in operation. I think it is a but on the dash or centre console to inhibit it. I am not aware of being able to change the default starting driver mode. I tried dynamic briefly but found that in cruising conditions it was a gear too low, so only use when I want the responsiveness primed. Alternatively I accelerate earlier in anticipation.
Our T5 CC arrived in the middle of March.
The stop start is way better than the system in our previous Octavia scout, basically I don't find it intrusive at all, but to be fair its only done 500 miles due to lock down.
Love the car, its very smooth, but not suitable if you want a sporty drive, it feels more like a limo, relaxing.
Our spec inludes Intellisafe and winter pack, but with hindsight I would have gone with the reversing camera as its really hard to judge the length of the car.
Ours is Saville Grey, it can look black but the flakes really pop in sunlight.
I found that PCP through the dealer was about £50 per month less than any lease for similar mileage.
The stop start is way better than the system in our previous Octavia scout, basically I don't find it intrusive at all, but to be fair its only done 500 miles due to lock down.
Love the car, its very smooth, but not suitable if you want a sporty drive, it feels more like a limo, relaxing.
Our spec inludes Intellisafe and winter pack, but with hindsight I would have gone with the reversing camera as its really hard to judge the length of the car.
Ours is Saville Grey, it can look black but the flakes really pop in sunlight.
I found that PCP through the dealer was about £50 per month less than any lease for similar mileage.
niva441 said:
Wouldn't worry about stop start - mine seems to disable itself most of the time, even after spending some time at constant speed on dual carriageways, When it does work I find it unobtrusive in operation. I think it is a but on the dash or centre console to inhibit it. I am not aware of being able to change the default starting driver mode. I tried dynamic briefly but found that in cruising conditions it was a gear too low, so only use when I want the responsiveness primed. Alternatively I accelerate earlier in anticipation.
Thanks, more from the manual, just discovered you can move and place the relevant button where you want on the centre screen, so that might be a solution.Ok this is in a totally different type of vehicle, a 4x4, but for the driving I do which is mainly out in country bumpkin land on the B roads and lanes, occasionally a winding A road, the Sport setting on the auto has turned out to be the perfect map. On duals and motorway, yes then stick it in D to use a higher gear, otherwise it never ever selects 6th at legal UK speeds.
Back to Volvo, from watching reviews on YouTube where they're complaining about the Geartronic box, most of the time it looks like they don't really know how to drive an auto, or at least not how I do it anyway. As you say, accelerate more progressively with decent modulation and anticipation as opposed to just planting the gas pedal and expecting instant reaction. Although to be fair the Powershift box that I had in a couple of V50s, one of which being one of the first in UK, was excellent. When you just buried it, it used to block change down 2/3 gears and away faster than you could see on the display.
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