850 2.0 to 2.5

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Pacey

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66 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Our '94 850 is getting somewhat tired after 180k and the engine is not in such great health anymore. Next year I'll hopefully be getting hold of a T5 but until then i was wondering how easy it would be to change the engine from the 20v 2.0 to the 20v 2.5.

Anyone know what extra bits may be required?

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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None provided they are both 20v's the mounts are the same etc - ECU's and fueling will be different though - 180k and tired? I bet it just needs a damn good sort out! - The 2.0 20v is my fave 850 engine - I had 2.0 20valve Se a few years ago and rolling roading @ 152bhp - stock engine with the cam timing tuned - the book states 143bhp! it was quicker than my mates 2.5 20v to boot!

Edited by morgrp on Monday 2nd February 16:10

Pacey

Original Poster:

66 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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It's 'tired' in the respect that the previous owner wasn't that genned up on looking after cars, so it needs a whole new set of tapets and piston rings. The engine runs find if you ignore the sound of the tapets although that does go away once the oil is fully warm which is usually after 20 minutes of driving. I'm guessing the piston rings are shot as there are large plums of oil coming out the exhaust if the engine is rev'd above 4k. Although it only use around 1 litre of oil per 1200 miles.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Pacey said:
It's 'tired' in the respect that the previous owner wasn't that genned up on looking after cars, so it needs a whole new set of tapets and piston rings. The engine runs find if you ignore the sound of the tapets although that does go away once the oil is fully warm which is usually after 20 minutes of driving. I'm guessing the piston rings are shot as there are large plums of oil coming out the exhaust if the engine is rev'd above 4k. Although it only use around 1 litre of oil per 1200 miles.
The early 2.0 20v's had a tappet issues where they make an intermittent tapping whilst warming up then they shut up - Actually very common and just down to the design of the tappets e.g. nothing to worry about. Because lots of owners complained about it to Volvo, The tappets were modified in late 94 to early 95. My 94 2.0 SE used to tap like a bd until it was warm but it ran fine. As for the piston rings maybe changing to a decent oil will reduce the leakage - Shell Helix Semi Synth works really well in 850's. TBH I did have a 2.5 20v that burned oil but I just lived with it so really other than the oil change there isn't much you can do...The engine change would be simple though...

Callyuk

715 posts

182 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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It will be just as easy to change over to the T5 lump as it would to the 2.5 as they are all based on the same 5 cylinder engine but you would have to fit a couple of extra bits like the intercooler for example

y2blade

56,111 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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morgrp said:
Pacey said:
It's 'tired' in the respect that the previous owner wasn't that genned up on looking after cars, so it needs a whole new set of tapets and piston rings. The engine runs find if you ignore the sound of the tapets although that does go away once the oil is fully warm which is usually after 20 minutes of driving. I'm guessing the piston rings are shot as there are large plums of oil coming out the exhaust if the engine is rev'd above 4k. Although it only use around 1 litre of oil per 1200 miles.
The early 2.0 20v's had a tappet issues where they make an intermittent tapping whilst warming up then they shut up - Actually very common and just down to the design of the tappets e.g. nothing to worry about. Because lots of owners complained about it to Volvo, The tappets were modified in late 94 to early 95. My 94 2.0 SE used to tap like a bd until it was warm but it ran fine. As for the piston rings maybe changing to a decent oil will reduce the leakage - Shell Helix Semi Synth works really well in 850's. TBH I did have a 2.5 20v that burned oil but I just lived with it so really other than the oil change there isn't much you can do...The engine change would be simple though...
+1 for the early 2ltr 20valves being tappy as feck until up to temp (it even mentions it in the owners handbook so nothing to worry about).......my g/fs one has been like it since we owned it 5 years ago now...hasnt got any worse and doesnt use any oil at all between services

it's a peach of an engine tbh, really sounds good on song smile

valve bounce66

2,707 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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has the flame trap been checked/removed lately,if blocked this can cause excessive back pressure/smoke,its fitted just under the inlet ducting close to the throttle body.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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valve bounce66 said:
has the flame trap been checked/removed lately,if blocked this can cause excessive back pressure/smoke,its fitted just under the inlet ducting close to the throttle body.
Thats a good point - The breathers do block easily on 850's esp if they're run on st oil