S60 D5... owners
Discussion
ad551 said:
Must be good to have something to chuck the mountain bike in the back of! That is the only problem with the S60 - the boot is big but the access isn't great. My bike fits in fine but it is a bit of struggle to put it in in the first place. An old estate I didn't care about would be great - shame I don't have room for two cars. There is something very liberating about driving a car you don't really care about damaging!
Indeed... I've always floated between 'nice' cars though that's down to personal opinion and on the otehr hand, some right s
tters. As lovely as it is having a nice car to swan around in, there comes a point where something old and unloved is just nice to use on a daily basis. That was one of the things that put me off a mint S70R or V70R, I knew it'd end up becoming too cherished and well, that would quickly defeat the purpose of an estate car. Mrs Davie has come round too, funnily enough that happened as soon as she'd discovered that the allocated budget still contains 3/4 of what it did when I started looking for a D5. Shame the same can't be said about her after a Saturday morning shopping in Glasgow. Also quite please to discovered it's returning about 42 - 44mpg which is better than I expected given it's weight and erm, 'challenging' aerodynamics!
Cheers
Super Slo Mo said:
yes, got it fixed.............just a blocked fuel filter, although it took a little while to trace it at my local specialist.
Fuel filter probs are rife with the S60/V70, replacing is not listed on the service schedule and by siting it in front of the rear wheel this leads to a clogged one freezing-up in sub-zero temperatures causing limp-mode & engine service warnings etc. It's an easy DIY job, drain the filter cannister into a bowl, unscrew the cannister, remove old filter and replace with new, refit cannister. It may be best to fill the cannister with Derv before refitting as mine took an age to start after lots of cranking of starter motor. HTH.
Just to bump this back up the listings a bit, I changed the intercooler on mine today. It's nowhere near as tough a job as my tame Volvo mechanic, or the forums would have you believe. I didn't do it the Haynes (or official) way either, that involves dropping all the coolant, jacking the car up and firkling the radiator and intercooler combined out under the front bumper.
I popped the front bumper off for a better look, then removed the headlamps, slam panel plus a couple of other bits and pieces, and slid the intercooler out from between the rad and the aircon heat exchanger.
Total time 3 hours, including a couple of cups of tea and a lunch break. Not bad for a first attempt I thought.
The car seems happier for it too. Time will tell if there's been any improvement in mpg (fingers crossed).
I popped the front bumper off for a better look, then removed the headlamps, slam panel plus a couple of other bits and pieces, and slid the intercooler out from between the rad and the aircon heat exchanger.
Total time 3 hours, including a couple of cups of tea and a lunch break. Not bad for a first attempt I thought.
The car seems happier for it too. Time will tell if there's been any improvement in mpg (fingers crossed).
Super Slo Mo said:
Just to bump this back up the listings a bit, I changed the intercooler on mine today. It's nowhere near as tough a job as my tame Volvo mechanic, or the forums would have you believe. I didn't do it the Haynes (or official) way either, that involves dropping all the coolant, jacking the car up and firkling the radiator and intercooler combined out under the front bumper.
I popped the front bumper off for a better look, then removed the headlamps, slam panel plus a couple of other bits and pieces, and slid the intercooler out from between the rad and the aircon heat exchanger.
Total time 3 hours, including a couple of cups of tea and a lunch break. Not bad for a first attempt I thought.
The car seems happier for it too. Time will tell if there's been any improvement in mpg (fingers crossed).
good info thanksI popped the front bumper off for a better look, then removed the headlamps, slam panel plus a couple of other bits and pieces, and slid the intercooler out from between the rad and the aircon heat exchanger.
Total time 3 hours, including a couple of cups of tea and a lunch break. Not bad for a first attempt I thought.
The car seems happier for it too. Time will tell if there's been any improvement in mpg (fingers crossed).
I have a spare cooler for mine, so I'm ready if/when mine pops
I got it FOC via a Techy friend, it came off a rear-ended write-off.....I took it off myself, wasn't s problem to get too I did the same as you did
so far mmine is holding fast and dry as a bone, now done about 7k since the remap
Jimbo666 said:
I did email you back regarding my S60 D5 that's for sale!
Chap... My sincere apologies. I've since found your e.mail in an old account that I haven't used for months. Can't quite understand why that is the case as I've updated my details and since doing so, have sold a car via Pistonheads and it was my new one that worked.
Having seen the pictures, I now regret buying the V70.
Sorry chap.
Dave
Just re: the S60 D5, thought I'd ask here instead of creating a new thread.
I understand the model to get is the Euro III engine, which is fine as I'm after economy more than power.
However, I've read a few things about the facelift model having better injectors or something? Obviously getting a facelift one with the 163 engine will be a harder task for a budget than if I were buying one slightly older (2002/3/etc.). What potential risks would I run by getting an earlier model and is there anything you can do to check if something is on the way out other than be thorough with service history etc.?
And, final question, is it the facelift model that got internal upgrades or did they start doing that before this point?
Oh, actually, I lie, is there an easy way to tell if it's had the 13-speaker upgrade? I think I might be waiting forever to find the right spec but just in case...
p.s. am I mad for still after all these years really wanting a C70 T5? It'd ruin me financially. Possibly.
I understand the model to get is the Euro III engine, which is fine as I'm after economy more than power.
However, I've read a few things about the facelift model having better injectors or something? Obviously getting a facelift one with the 163 engine will be a harder task for a budget than if I were buying one slightly older (2002/3/etc.). What potential risks would I run by getting an earlier model and is there anything you can do to check if something is on the way out other than be thorough with service history etc.?
And, final question, is it the facelift model that got internal upgrades or did they start doing that before this point?
Oh, actually, I lie, is there an easy way to tell if it's had the 13-speaker upgrade? I think I might be waiting forever to find the right spec but just in case...
p.s. am I mad for still after all these years really wanting a C70 T5? It'd ruin me financially. Possibly.
The injectors were only changed after the first year or so's production. Usual symptom is poor starting from cold and/or a miss at idle.
There were a number of electrical and chassis upgrades for the 2004 model year (most 53-plate and some 03-plate cars come into that category). The 2005 model year upgrades are mainly cosmetic and a few equipment differences.
I wouldn't worry about the audio upgrade (which is 11, not 13 speakers) - it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between it and the standard SE 9-speaker surround setup.
There were a number of electrical and chassis upgrades for the 2004 model year (most 53-plate and some 03-plate cars come into that category). The 2005 model year upgrades are mainly cosmetic and a few equipment differences.
I wouldn't worry about the audio upgrade (which is 11, not 13 speakers) - it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between it and the standard SE 9-speaker surround setup.
LongLiveTazio said:
Ah, that's great, makes looking for a car easier. Not fussed about the external cosmetic differences. Any quick way to tell which 03/53 plate cars had the changes?
Smaller door mirrors, silver trim on the instruments, central console and stereo a darker charcoal colour. That said, there is nothing in particular wrong with a 2003 model so if you found a nice one I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
A question to all you D5 drivers...
I've just been to look at an 05 facelifted car with the Euro3 engine with 55,000 miles on it. It drove very nicely but it's the first I've driven so don't know much about the engine characteristics.
It seemed to pull perfectly well through the rev range but unlike all the other diesel cars I've ever driven it had no noticeable 'surge' once it gets on the turbo, instead it was a very linear power delivery throughout the range all the way to the red line, much like an n/a petrol. Is this normal for this engine?
I've just been to look at an 05 facelifted car with the Euro3 engine with 55,000 miles on it. It drove very nicely but it's the first I've driven so don't know much about the engine characteristics.
It seemed to pull perfectly well through the rev range but unlike all the other diesel cars I've ever driven it had no noticeable 'surge' once it gets on the turbo, instead it was a very linear power delivery throughout the range all the way to the red line, much like an n/a petrol. Is this normal for this engine?
simonej said:
A question to all you D5 drivers...
I've just been to look at an 05 facelifted car with the Euro3 engine with 55,000 miles on it. It drove very nicely but it's the first I've driven so don't know much about the engine characteristics.
It seemed to pull perfectly well through the rev range but unlike all the other diesel cars I've ever driven it had no noticeable 'surge' once it gets on the turbo, instead it was a very linear power delivery throughout the range all the way to the red line, much like an n/a petrol. Is this normal for this engine?
Seems about right, a bit flat below 1500 rpm, then pulls like a train to the redline. Makes it all too easy to use all the revs rather than short shift. Sounds nice for a diesel too. I've just been to look at an 05 facelifted car with the Euro3 engine with 55,000 miles on it. It drove very nicely but it's the first I've driven so don't know much about the engine characteristics.
It seemed to pull perfectly well through the rev range but unlike all the other diesel cars I've ever driven it had no noticeable 'surge' once it gets on the turbo, instead it was a very linear power delivery throughout the range all the way to the red line, much like an n/a petrol. Is this normal for this engine?
Super Slo Mo said:
simonej said:
A question to all you D5 drivers...
I've just been to look at an 05 facelifted car with the Euro3 engine with 55,000 miles on it. It drove very nicely but it's the first I've driven so don't know much about the engine characteristics.
It seemed to pull perfectly well through the rev range but unlike all the other diesel cars I've ever driven it had no noticeable 'surge' once it gets on the turbo, instead it was a very linear power delivery throughout the range all the way to the red line, much like an n/a petrol. Is this normal for this engine?
Seems about right, a bit flat below 1500 rpm, then pulls like a train to the redline. Makes it all too easy to use all the revs rather than short shift. Sounds nice for a diesel too. I've just been to look at an 05 facelifted car with the Euro3 engine with 55,000 miles on it. It drove very nicely but it's the first I've driven so don't know much about the engine characteristics.
It seemed to pull perfectly well through the rev range but unlike all the other diesel cars I've ever driven it had no noticeable 'surge' once it gets on the turbo, instead it was a very linear power delivery throughout the range all the way to the red line, much like an n/a petrol. Is this normal for this engine?
they Don't drive like other diesels at all...it really is a fantastic engine
Problem for me is that I've been looking at T5s. Hm. I don't do big miles and I can get one of equivalent nick for less than a D5, it seems (albeit they don't come up as often).
Anyone like to comment? Will it cost me more than the D5 in other areas beyond perhaps the obviousness of tyres/insurance/petrol?
I have read that they are sensitive to set-up/alignment/bushes, can anyone comment further and is the D5 the same?
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions...
Anyone like to comment? Will it cost me more than the D5 in other areas beyond perhaps the obviousness of tyres/insurance/petrol?
I have read that they are sensitive to set-up/alignment/bushes, can anyone comment further and is the D5 the same?
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions...
They're not stupid questions.
I think you've highlighted the salient points with regards to additional costs; apart from the engine, most things that apply to the D5 will also apply to the T5 I think.
I believe the T5 and D5 share the intercooler, which isn't really up to the job, and thus require replacement periodically (at least, on the D5 they do, I'd guess the T5 isn't hugely different).
Alignment is critical, it's worth spending £50 having it set up properly, as mine destroyed a set of front tyres in 3,000 miles (at £100 each
) through being misaligned.
They're a big, heavy car so suspension bushes are almost consumables. Depending on mileage, a new set of suspension dampers and possibly springs wouldn't go amiss, although if you get the V model with self levelling rear suspension, they're rather pricey.
I think you've highlighted the salient points with regards to additional costs; apart from the engine, most things that apply to the D5 will also apply to the T5 I think.
I believe the T5 and D5 share the intercooler, which isn't really up to the job, and thus require replacement periodically (at least, on the D5 they do, I'd guess the T5 isn't hugely different).
Alignment is critical, it's worth spending £50 having it set up properly, as mine destroyed a set of front tyres in 3,000 miles (at £100 each
) through being misaligned. They're a big, heavy car so suspension bushes are almost consumables. Depending on mileage, a new set of suspension dampers and possibly springs wouldn't go amiss, although if you get the V model with self levelling rear suspension, they're rather pricey.
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