Discussion
troc said:
As far as I’m aware, Lego avoid modern weaponry and militarism but have always produced (very) historical and fantasy weapons and things.
So, swords and muskets are ok but not tanks, destroyers and machine guns.
They make an exception for licensed stuff like Star Wars.
And don’t forget the soon to be released Osprey. Last time I checked that was military so clearly they don’t do military stuff unless is suits!!!So, swords and muskets are ok but not tanks, destroyers and machine guns.
They make an exception for licensed stuff like Star Wars.
The Brummie said:
troc said:
As far as I’m aware, Lego avoid modern weaponry and militarism but have always produced (very) historical and fantasy weapons and things.
So, swords and muskets are ok but not tanks, destroyers and machine guns.
They make an exception for licensed stuff like Star Wars.
And don’t forget the soon to be released Osprey. Last time I checked that was military so clearly they don’t do military stuff unless is suits!!!So, swords and muskets are ok but not tanks, destroyers and machine guns.
They make an exception for licensed stuff like Star Wars.
I guess there's a whole worn argument about the polemic of prohibiting anything military while condoning pirates, outlaws (specifically doms charger rather than generic) etc.
Teddy Lop said:
TBF the osprey might be a military asset but it's a logistical tool rather than assault. Its also a quirky technical oddity so I can see why they would.
I guess there's a whole worn argument about the polemic of prohibiting anything military while condoning pirates, outlaws (specifically doms charger rather than generic) etc.
^thisI guess there's a whole worn argument about the polemic of prohibiting anything military while condoning pirates, outlaws (specifically doms charger rather than generic) etc.
I hadn't heard of the Osprey until I saw the Lego set, and just from looking at the model I wouldn't have guessed it was a military aircraft. Now that you mention it, I guess it does look a bit too sleek and high-tech to be civilian in nature, but it doesn't exactly scream 'I'm a weapon of war'. It probably isn't as instantly recognisable as other military transport aircraft, e.g. a hercules or chinook, so perhaps they could justify it on that basis (I'd be more surprised to see Lego releasing an official hercules or chinook).
8ball_Rob said:
^this
I hadn't heard of the Osprey until I saw the Lego set, and just from looking at the model I wouldn't have guessed it was a military aircraft. Now that you mention it, I guess it does look a bit too sleek and high-tech to be civilian in nature, but it doesn't exactly scream 'I'm a weapon of war'. It probably isn't as instantly recognisable as other military transport aircraft, e.g. a hercules or chinook, so perhaps they could justify it on that basis (I'd be more surprised to see Lego releasing an official hercules or chinook).
if they want to make it really authentic it should cost £2000 and not really work properly. Maybe supply some little Lego pilots with crossed fingers.I hadn't heard of the Osprey until I saw the Lego set, and just from looking at the model I wouldn't have guessed it was a military aircraft. Now that you mention it, I guess it does look a bit too sleek and high-tech to be civilian in nature, but it doesn't exactly scream 'I'm a weapon of war'. It probably isn't as instantly recognisable as other military transport aircraft, e.g. a hercules or chinook, so perhaps they could justify it on that basis (I'd be more surprised to see Lego releasing an official hercules or chinook).
Those images make me think of the film "Lord of War". It says "Rescue" on it, it's clearly not a combat aircraft 
(for those who don't get the reference, the main character in the film ships a combat helicopter and its guns separately to blag it as humanitarian transport vehicle through customs, as weapons trade is illegal).
(for those who don't get the reference, the main character in the film ships a combat helicopter and its guns separately to blag it as humanitarian transport vehicle through customs, as weapons trade is illegal).
ecsrobin said:
Us coastguard don’t operate ospreys.
Indeed, I checked after I'd posted......I was sure I'd seen something about it but I was mistaken. In that case, I shall proceed to glare angrily at Lego for being warmongering evildoers.
And buy the Osprey because it looks like a great model
does anyone hereabouts build their own technic models?
Whenever I buy a new Technic kit it lasts maybe a year before being pulled apart and the bits used to build some other kind of machine, with varying levels of success.
currently in various states of completeness are:
RC trailer mounted 'hydraulic' crane with slew, boom, jib, jib extension and outriggers
set 8284 tractor converted to steering by linear actuator rather than rack and pinion, pneumatic spool valve for rear implement and electric 3 point linkage
pneumatic hook lift trailer
4 speed sequential gearbox with remote shifting
tracked cargo carrier thingy (sort of like the US Army M8 tractor)
RC pneumatic pump and switch so you can radio control pneumatic systems
pull back and go stadium truck type thing with IFS and live rear axle
as well as numerous smaller ones like a functioning trolley jack and a few engines (I6 and V8 I think)
ETA, apparently it's called a 'MOC' (My Own Creation)
Whenever I buy a new Technic kit it lasts maybe a year before being pulled apart and the bits used to build some other kind of machine, with varying levels of success.
currently in various states of completeness are:
RC trailer mounted 'hydraulic' crane with slew, boom, jib, jib extension and outriggers
set 8284 tractor converted to steering by linear actuator rather than rack and pinion, pneumatic spool valve for rear implement and electric 3 point linkage
pneumatic hook lift trailer
4 speed sequential gearbox with remote shifting
tracked cargo carrier thingy (sort of like the US Army M8 tractor)
RC pneumatic pump and switch so you can radio control pneumatic systems
pull back and go stadium truck type thing with IFS and live rear axle
as well as numerous smaller ones like a functioning trolley jack and a few engines (I6 and V8 I think)
ETA, apparently it's called a 'MOC' (My Own Creation)
Edited by deadtom on Monday 22 June 14:18
Used to build all sorts of stuff when I was younger, the sets used to get built once then all the bits mixed together Remember building diggers, fork lift trucks, skip lorries, HGVs... was hard to find reference images though as it was pre-internet! I rmember getting my mum to send off for a couple of packs of caterpillar tracks so I could build a M3 Half track
Can't wait for my son to get a bit older so I can get the Technic out (he's still on normal lego). Have to say though I find old style technic much easier to design models with, when the beams still had studs on the top. With the new style Technic I feel like you have to know what you want to build 3 steps before you get there and it's a pain to redo areas to add bits in. Bottom up design rather than inside - out.
Remember building diggers, fork lift trucks, skip lorries, HGVs... was hard to find reference images though as it was pre-internet! I rmember getting my mum to send off for a couple of packs of caterpillar tracks so I could build a M3 Half track Can't wait for my son to get a bit older so I can get the Technic out (he's still on normal lego). Have to say though I find old style technic much easier to design models with, when the beams still had studs on the top. With the new style Technic I feel like you have to know what you want to build 3 steps before you get there and it's a pain to redo areas to add bits in. Bottom up design rather than inside - out.
oh yes, the vast majority of the stuff I make is 10 steps forward, 9 steps back due to the issues you identify, but once you have it down the new type of beams are much much more versatile. The old studded beams are good for simple framework, but as soon as you get more complicated they are pretty much hopeless, and nowhere near strong enough.
The new style are square section but the old style are rectangular, so new type is vastly more capable for complex structures.
The new style are square section but the old style are rectangular, so new type is vastly more capable for complex structures.
Edited by deadtom on Monday 22 June 14:42
I guess it's just what your used to, I'm sure once the little man starts getting new Technic sets I'll soon get the hang of it a bit more!
I do really enjoy Knex as well, something I never had as a kid but is actually a pretty cool system. Doesn't seem to have the cult following that lego has though. Made a mountain bike out of it the other day, even managed to use the flex of the "chainstay" struts to make a soft tail rear suspension.
I do really enjoy Knex as well, something I never had as a kid but is actually a pretty cool system. Doesn't seem to have the cult following that lego has though. Made a mountain bike out of it the other day, even managed to use the flex of the "chainstay" struts to make a soft tail rear suspension.
troc said:
Indeed, I checked after I'd posted......
I was sure I'd seen something about it but I was mistaken. In that case, I shall proceed to glare angrily at Lego for being warmongering evildoers.
And buy the Osprey because it looks like a great model
while you're at it maybe you should tell lego to take a closer look at shuttle funding, wouldn't have existed certainly in the form it did but probably at all, but for the generosity of uncle CIA black ops etc.I was sure I'd seen something about it but I was mistaken. In that case, I shall proceed to glare angrily at Lego for being warmongering evildoers.
And buy the Osprey because it looks like a great model
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