MFH 1/12 BT52b

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caterhamnut

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429 posts

204 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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Cocking cock....


caterhamnut

Original Poster:

429 posts

204 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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So this was brave!
had to trim a small piece of the resin tub to enable the PE strip to fit properly. managed to not damage any of the carbon bits!









Can't assemble the front suspension until I have fixed the side panel - can't do that until it is sprayed blue. Was waiting for the Zero BT52 paint to arrive, which it just did, so I cleaned up and primed the main body parts - I've never used Zero paints before, so I wanted to do all the big bits at the same time so everything matched - wings will come later...
Also had to paint some radiator and side pod parts the body colour before assembling.

Some mocking up...











Used Tamiya Fine Surface Primer....





So here goes with the paint. Followed advice and tutorials from here, and built the color up gradually - in these pictures we are about halfway through the layers - here the paint looks light and metallic, but after a few more coats it became darker....loved the way it went on - very easy to build up. I'm not using 2K clear coat - I simply don't have the space/location to use the potent stuff - so I am using the Zero pre-mixed 1K clearcoat...





Managed to get paint on all the stuff I needed before disaster struck!



Cock!

Got some wall and floor re-painting to do now aswell - and have had to order another Zero blue paint, having spilt over half a 60ml bottle all over the wall and floor - grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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st happens eek still looking very good though thanks for the update.

dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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Great when that happens. Silk Cut purple on the office ceiling:



FWIW my experience of the 1K clearcoat (Zero and others) is that the matt basecoat soaks it up like a sponge. I found it needed loads of coats and never really looked glossy. I've painted 2 shells with it and endud up repainting both.

Not sure what to suggest becasue 2K clearcoat worked brilliantly - two coats for a hard polishable gloss, and very difficult to get to run. You could always do it outside.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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Hopefully one day I have your skills!

caterhamnut

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429 posts

204 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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haha - love the ceiling! I'm going to have to get some paint from the building maintenance guy and start layering white over that wall - I was more annoyed that I would then run out of paint while I was in the middle spraying all the body work, but JUST managed to salvage enough to finish the bulk - more on order for the wings etc! I carried on spraying rather than stopping to clean up, so there is probably a bit more on the floor than there could have been lol

I clear coated last night with the 1K lacquer from Zero - it seemed to go on pretty well actually - I am impressed with the Zero paint not running - unlike rattle cans can - same with the clear...I'm happy with the finish - there is a little 'texture' where maybe I should have polished the base coat - or even primer - slightly, but to be honest with this '82 model, I'm not trying for 'mirror finish' - maybe for the McLaren MP4/23 that will be different.
Anyway - this is the first coats to enable me to decal, so then there will be another round of clear coat over that...
The photos tend to show the 'texture' way more than you can actually see - but you can see how much darker the paint becomes once you build up the layers - the first pictures above show the first very thin application...









Overall I'm pretty pleased - I just wish I had a 'shed' - spraying in a NYC apartment on the 29th floor is not ideal - can't pop outside and ventilate etc!

First time I've sprayed 'bodywork' and first time with Zero paint - I'm a convert in terms of building up the layers and the way they spray on. I'd like to try 2K but just can't at this point in my home life - maybe in the future when I am back in the UK...

I can start applying the decals now, which will cover a lot of what you see - all the white on the car is decal, so we will see if the blue shows through much!

caterhamnut

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Tuesday 20th September 2016
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As I thought - absolutely no issue with the white decals - they are thick enough (not necessarily a good thing, I know) or rather 'solid' enough to remain bright white when on the navy blue...now of course we'll see how well they conform to some of the curves - I've only done a bit of flat work so far!!



Time for some more 'mocking up' - loving this scale! Nothing glued or fixed here, so ignore panel gaps, funny angles etc!!





Now the decals - again, photos are of decals in progress of being added, so ignore any stains or streaks at this stage...I'm also going to find time to get the model into the decent photo cube for some better pictures - it has been a while!









You can see why the side panels had to be painted, decaled and then clear coated before assembly - the front suspension goes through that hole...

dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Looks awesome!

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Looking so cool thanks for the update.

caterhamnut

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204 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Thanks guys - question at end of this piece!

So this large decal was a bit daunting...needed 3+ hands.





....but it went on quite well, and was 'thick' enough to allow me to play with it for a while, re-lift and re-position to line things up etc...





However, I have some creases around a cure point - what is the best way to get rid of these? They have tightened a bit on drying, but I guess I need to revisit this area locally with decal solution?


dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I'd try Microsol combined with heat from a hairdryer. Failing that a few cuts with a #11 blade and try the same again.

Skii

1,630 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Microsol,no contest.

Amazing work BTW.

EagleMoto4-2

669 posts

105 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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With such a large decal, and at the risk of blue coming through, I would have been tempted to mask and airbrush white paint onto that area. Cut out the detail bits from the decal and apply them over the white paint.

dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Does seem very odd that the decals aren't for the blue parts.

caterhamnut

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Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Thanks for the tips guys - appreciated. I'll give them a go - didn't get a chance last night, but already one crease has pulled itself out as the decals dried over night. I use the microset and sol, so hopefully more of these will work..

The 'spray the white bits' has been mentioned a lot on the F1m thread I have - I said that this was the first time I'd used Zero and even any type of clearcoat, or indeed 'proper' spraying in fact - I probably brush painted car kits when I was 14!

I get the spray white thing - I'd be ok masking the shapes off, like the large nose section - I mainly avoided it because of the very large white text (Parmalat) and the confidence in matching that to the sprayed white...or am I missing something here, and it is a case of masking off and spraying white primer, then using the decals in the same way OVER the white areas (but in this case, it would still have the potential issue with the Parmalat matching)

Although I have read negative things about older MFH decals, I decided to trust MFH in this case, that the blue wouldn't shine through, and it seems pretty good.

Anyway - in this case the white decals are obviously pretty thick - which obviously has its own disadvantages. (They do look 'thick' on the model...)

I know many are decals are finer in detail, and the blue would indeed be an issue...

I sprayed over the flat cockpit side panels last night, sealing the Parmalat decal and luckily nothing peeled, bubbled, clouded or pitted! Quite chuffed with the result (first time with Zero and indeed any clear coat) and looking forward to adding these colour panels to the rest of the build! Sister visiting NYC this week, so there will likely be a break...

The spotlight doesn't do the pictures any favours - you can't really see any marks in the daylight...next time I might spend a bit more time sanding/smoothing the primer. I have not polished these panels yet either...they may benefit from a slight flattening? I'm so nervous of buggering up the spraying/lacquering part of these builds, I dare not touch anything once they are 'ok'!

It will happen one day though - that whole 'strip and start again' saga!









Zombie

1,587 posts

196 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Looks superb to me. Even as an experienced model builder I would have no hope of achieving that kind of standard.

caterhamnut

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204 months

Tuesday 27th September 2016
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A few more shots - any assembly you see is just placed - nothing fixed yet! Added some rivets to the side panels, wrinkles gradually being teased out of the white decal...


























dr_gn

16,169 posts

185 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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I'd say that's shaping up to be one of the best models ever featured on here - probably the best full stop.

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Agreed, the detail and quality is incredible!
I only wish I was able to build something so well myself

Composite Guru

2,216 posts

204 months

Wednesday 28th September 2016
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Looks great. Looking forward to seeing the finished article.