Macross Destroid Phalanx (1:00)

Macross Destroid Phalanx (1:00)

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dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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I’ve found it’s pot luck whether you can cleanly remove Tamiya spray paint - particularly their primers. I think some are lacquers rather than acrylics.

Can’t you overspray the marking with base colour? If that doesn’t work you’ve got about three options: soak in brake fluid, Modelstrip paste or Mr.Muscle aerosol oven cleaner. Put the coated parts in a sealed plastic bag in a warm place and hope for the best. Clean it off with a toothbrush, hot water and detergent. And wear gloves and eye protection - it’s not worth your eyesight.

Using either one or all of the above methods, I’ve had parts back to bare plastic in a couple of hours, or parts which have patches (or indeed entire primer coats) that simply won’t strip.

Good luck!

Jader1973

4,011 posts

201 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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dr_gn said:
I’ve found it’s pot luck whether you can cleanly remove Tamiya spray paint - particularly their primers. I think some are lacquers rather than acrylics.

Can’t you overspray the marking with base colour? If that doesn’t work you’ve got about three options: soak in brake fluid, Modelstrip paste or Mr.Muscle aerosol oven cleaner. Put the coated parts in a sealed plastic bag in a warm place and hope for the best. Clean it off with a toothbrush, hot water and detergent. And wear gloves and eye protection - it’s not worth your eyesight.

Using either one or all of the above methods, I’ve had parts back to bare plastic in a couple of hours, or parts which have patches (or indeed entire primer coats) that simply won’t strip.

Good luck!
Thanks. I’ll give one of those a try. Just getting the poorly done acrylic marking off would be enough.

dr_gn

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16,168 posts

185 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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Jader1973 said:
dr_gn said:
I’ve found it’s pot luck whether you can cleanly remove Tamiya spray paint - particularly their primers. I think some are lacquers rather than acrylics.

Can’t you overspray the marking with base colour? If that doesn’t work you’ve got about three options: soak in brake fluid, Modelstrip paste or Mr.Muscle aerosol oven cleaner. Put the coated parts in a sealed plastic bag in a warm place and hope for the best. Clean it off with a toothbrush, hot water and detergent. And wear gloves and eye protection - it’s not worth your eyesight.

Using either one or all of the above methods, I’ve had parts back to bare plastic in a couple of hours, or parts which have patches (or indeed entire primer coats) that simply won’t strip.

Good luck!
Thanks. I’ll give one of those a try. Just getting the poorly done acrylic marking off would be enough.
Sometimes tricky with acrylics if you’re thinking of flatting back with abrasives. Again, depends on how well cured the paint is, type of paint, and even colour in my experience!

kenny.R400

1,212 posts

241 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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Weathering at its finest!

dr_gn

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Saturday 3rd March 2018
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kenny.R400 said:


Weathering at its finest!
Ha ha thanks, but does it look weathered, or like a kids old diecast toy??

I may yet chicken out of paint chipping and stick to my boring old tried and tested methods.

dr_gn

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Monday 5th March 2018
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I’ve weathered the missiles, painted the doors and glued them into one half of each pod. Fit is crap - the inserts had to be packed with paper shims before flooding around with pva. I’ve test -assembled it (takes about 30 seconds):





Next job is to permanently close the pod halves, flat the joins and mask ready for painting.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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dr_gn said:
kenny.R400 said:


Weathering at its finest!
Ha ha thanks, but does it look weathered, or like a kids old diecast toy??

I may yet chicken out of paint chipping and stick to my boring old tried and tested methods.
Personally I think they look really good and well weathered, particularly the one on the right (assuming they're different methods).

dr_gn

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185 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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AshVX220 said:
dr_gn said:
kenny.R400 said:


Weathering at its finest!
Ha ha thanks, but does it look weathered, or like a kids old diecast toy??

I may yet chicken out of paint chipping and stick to my boring old tried and tested methods.
Personally I think they look really good and well weathered, particularly the one on the right (assuming they're different methods).
The left was using chipping fluid, the right was applied with a sponge, and some weathering powders for rust streaking.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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dr_gn said:
The left was using chipping fluid, the right was applied with a sponge, and some weathering powders for rust streaking.
They look brilliant, especially the one on the right, for me I wouldn't think they look like a knackered Dinky Toy, but then I'm just going off a photo and don't have the keen modelers eye that you have.

dr_gn

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185 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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The moulded-in missile heads bothered me. It was impossible to paint them properly, while still weathering the back plates.

So Ive decided to take a resin cast of the whole thing, and separate the heads, then I’ll 3D print a recessed backplate and fit the assembly to the original surrounds. At least that’s the plan!

Here is an original part, Blu-Tacked into its moulding box:


dr_gn

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Saturday 10th March 2018
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I’m hoping the instruction not to use the supplied release agent on the pattern itself was correct...


dr_gn

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Sunday 11th March 2018
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The mould set OK, so I removed the base plate to reveal the original part embedded in the rubber:



I added a couple of self-adhesive half beads from Hobbycraft to the plate before pouring, to give locations for the pattern halves once complete. It’s probably not really necessary in this case because it’s a flat feature on the split line, but whatever.

Next, built up the second half of the mould box, and added some feed tubes through which I’ll inject the resin. Finally, brushed some silicone release agent on the mould face:





Mixed and poured the rubber, and currently waiting for it to set - probably over night:


dr_gn

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Monday 12th March 2018
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First cast not bad - got some bubbles in the mould, but I’m only after the missile heads really:



Might try the moulding again, just so I’ve got the option of using a duplicate part if something goes really wrong...

dr_gn

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Sunday 18th March 2018
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I’ve now removed the back from one of the resin copies, plus the missile tips. I’ve also 3D printed a new back plate with correctly spaced holes:



So now I can paint and weather the surround and back plate, and have pristine missile tips. All without masking. Just need to fill the 3D prints with filler primer and get them smooth.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Please tell me you haven't given up on this one dr_gn? I was really looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

dr_gn

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Thursday 12th April 2018
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AshVX220 said:
Please tell me you haven't given up on this one dr_gn? I was really looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
No not at all, just got a bit sidetracked with other stuff like the Tiger Moth and the SMS Emden I just started. I’ll get back onto it once the Moth is done, hopefully this weekend.

AshVX220

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191 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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dr_gn said:
AshVX220 said:
Please tell me you haven't given up on this one dr_gn? I was really looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
No not at all, just got a bit sidetracked with other stuff like the Tiger Moth and the SMS Emden I just started. I’ll get back onto it once the Moth is done, hopefully this weekend.
biggrin Excellent, you certainly keep a lot of stuff on the go (Tigermoth is amazing!)

dr_gn

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Friday 13th April 2018
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Here’s where I got to with the rocket pod internals: All the heads are individual, so can be painted separately and fitted to the 3D printed back plates and resin cast surrounds. Everything will be weathered individually and hopefully that will result in a more realistic effect:




dr_gn

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Saturday 18th May 2019
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So it’s over a year since the last update. How is that possible? Anyway, I’m fed up with the sight of the box on my bench, so I want to get it finished. I cast the other insert, and assembled one pod. With other I though I’d depict it as having fired a few missiles, so I clued some random tubes behind the face plate:





Hopefully the other pod will be assembled tomorrow.

dr_gn

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Tuesday 21st May 2019
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So the pod internals are done, now to deal with the seams: