Paper Ship: Bismarck, HMV, 1:250
Discussion
lufbramatt said:
The sheer size of this has just dawned on me- one of my colleagues bought a Tamiya 1:350 Yamato last week and that’s massive, this is way bigger!
I can’t begin to fathom how you have he patience to see these builds through!
Yes it’s a bit on the large size - just over 1m. I’ve put an Ikea shelf up to keep it on just for this build.I can’t begin to fathom how you have he patience to see these builds through!
Someone I know has the Tamiya 1:350 Bismarck, this one is infinitely more detailed. Unfortunately all that detail has to be cut out, folded up and glued together...
Edited by dr_gn on Thursday 16th January 21:56
Turn7 said:
Is UHU still the hideous stringy, gets everywhere stuff I remember from my childhood ?
Yes, it’s absolutely hopeless to work with on anything more critical than large bits of model which will never be seen again.It certainly does the job when used in the right places though.
dr_gn said:
lufbramatt said:
The sheer size of this has just dawned on me- one of my colleagues bought a Tamiya 1:350 Yamato last week and that’s massive, this is way bigger!
I can’t begin to fathom how you have he patience to see these builds through!
Yes it’s a bit on the large size - just over 1m. I’ve put an Ikea shelf up to keep it on just for this build.I can’t begin to fathom how you have he patience to see these builds through!
Someone I know has the Tamiya 1:350 Bismarck, this one is infinitely more detailed. Unfortunately all that detail has to be cut out, folded up and glued together...
Edited by dr_gn on Thursday 16th January 21:56
I am a patient person, but something like this would break me just cutting out all of the parts...
Squirrelofwoe said:
dr_gn said:
lufbramatt said:
The sheer size of this has just dawned on me- one of my colleagues bought a Tamiya 1:350 Yamato last week and that’s massive, this is way bigger!
I can’t begin to fathom how you have he patience to see these builds through!
Yes it’s a bit on the large size - just over 1m. I’ve put an Ikea shelf up to keep it on just for this build.I can’t begin to fathom how you have he patience to see these builds through!
Someone I know has the Tamiya 1:350 Bismarck, this one is infinitely more detailed. Unfortunately all that detail has to be cut out, folded up and glued together...
Edited by dr_gn on Thursday 16th January 21:56
I am a patient person, but something like this would break me just cutting out all of the parts...
dr_gn said:
I've built a few other HMV paper ships rated at 'difficult' or 'very difficult', so I assume this one will be similar complexity, but will take about 3x longer!
I followed the other builds you did on here, particularly liked the SMS Emden you did- superb job and very much my period of interest 
https://play.acast.com/s/dansnowshistoryhit/f78365...
There’s a great BBC history hit podcast by Dan Snow about hunting the Bismarck just out, I was listening to this morning that I thought might be good to listen to Dr.
I think it’s the second one in.
His podcasts are pretty good if anyone’s interested.
There’s a great BBC history hit podcast by Dan Snow about hunting the Bismarck just out, I was listening to this morning that I thought might be good to listen to Dr.
I think it’s the second one in.
His podcasts are pretty good if anyone’s interested.
El stovey said:
https://play.acast.com/s/dansnowshistoryhit/f78365...
There’s a great BBC history hit podcast by Dan Snow about hunting the Bismarck just out, I was listening to this morning that I thought might be good to listen to Dr.
I think it’s the second one in.
His podcasts are pretty good if anyone’s interested.
Thanks very much - I'll have a listen this weekend.There’s a great BBC history hit podcast by Dan Snow about hunting the Bismarck just out, I was listening to this morning that I thought might be good to listen to Dr.
I think it’s the second one in.
His podcasts are pretty good if anyone’s interested.
dr_gn said:
Turn7 said:
Is UHU still the hideous stringy, gets everywhere stuff I remember from my childhood ?
Yes, it’s absolutely hopeless to work with on anything more critical than large bits of model which will never be seen again.It certainly does the job when used in the right places though.
archie456 said:
dr_gn said:
Turn7 said:
Is UHU still the hideous stringy, gets everywhere stuff I remember from my childhood ?
Yes, it’s absolutely hopeless to work with on anything more critical than large bits of model which will never be seen again.It certainly does the job when used in the right places though.
ferrisbueller said:
This had dropped off my watchlist for some reason so I've only just caught up on the tragic events of January. Heartened to see another one underway and racing to a finish.
Amazing work, as per.
Wouldn’t say “racing”! Amazing work, as per.
I looked at it again on Thursday evening, and immediately ran into an unfathomable assembly on the first bit of superstructure...
dr_gn said:
archie456 said:
You can put it in a jar and dilute it a little with acetone or cellulose thinners and the stringiness disappears.
Thanks, but won’t that make it more prone to wrinkling the paper or damaging the ink?I guess a quick test will find out either way.
That prompted me to get on with it today. I’ve 90% figured out the area between the two main superstructure blocks. It’s a complex assembly of faceted plates and cantilevered overhangs that somehow form a roof over the gap, with the catapult off to one side:
Here are some of the parts:
I’ve cut some of the more complicated z-folds out of their original parts - makes alignment easier. Also painted the exposed edges, and used the first bits of laser-cut card: bulkhead stiffeners.
Here are some of the parts:
I’ve cut some of the more complicated z-folds out of their original parts - makes alignment easier. Also painted the exposed edges, and used the first bits of laser-cut card: bulkhead stiffeners.
Here’s a fairly typical problem with tolerance stacks and paper models: the first piece of the superstructure wall needs to fit exactly on its footprint on the deck, butt up to the catapult trough, and match up with a curved piece, which is itself part of an assembly. All need to match precisely with the roof of the superstructure , which is one piece, so can’t easily be adjusted:
Trouble is, the superstructure wall piece is about 1mm too far back, so won’t match the curved piece. This will throw the whole lot out. I’ve glued a wood strip to the back of the wall, and another to the deck. I’m hoping to put some glue on the mating faces and force the wall forward slightly until the glue sets.
Trouble is, the superstructure wall piece is about 1mm too far back, so won’t match the curved piece. This will throw the whole lot out. I’ve glued a wood strip to the back of the wall, and another to the deck. I’m hoping to put some glue on the mating faces and force the wall forward slightly until the glue sets.
I’ve replaced the horizontal tabs of the decks with doubled paper pva’d into their slots. Their absence made deck fitting easier, but the structure lost a bit of stiffness. All back now. Now adding the first superstructure sides, inch-by-inch:
Alignment with the next deck is all over the place (see the door between the metal blocks, and how it’s deck plate is offset), but that’s how it goes with paper models of this complexity...
Also, part numbering can be hit and miss, which can get confusing:
Should be part 65B.
Alignment with the next deck is all over the place (see the door between the metal blocks, and how it’s deck plate is offset), but that’s how it goes with paper models of this complexity...
Also, part numbering can be hit and miss, which can get confusing:
Should be part 65B.
First of the upper decks: Not too bad a fit, but some slight overhangs, especially in the secondary turret circular cut-outs. I cut a template disc with the Olfa circle cutter, and got it to be a perfect fit in the curve:
Then used the female part of the template to mark the underside of the deck, as a trimming guide:
Still fettling to do, but it’ll hopefully be a big improvement:
Then used the female part of the template to mark the underside of the deck, as a trimming guide:
Still fettling to do, but it’ll hopefully be a big improvement:
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