Paper Ship: Bismarck, HMV, 1:250
Discussion
shalmaneser said:
dr_gn said:
shalmaneser said:
If you;re after something light and strong and very flat honeycomb core composite board would do nicely.
Yes, that’s what I meant by Ikea furniture type stuff. I don’t know where to get a 1000 x 190 piece though.That was just from a quick google but looks cheap enough to take a risk on! It's actually a remarkable material.
I missed this:
https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/lack-wall-shelf-white...
Looks ideal.
Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 1st October 10:04
silverfoxcc said:
Composite Guru said:
Interesting build. Can't wait to see it finished.
I have a mate who builds paper models in Austria. Mainly F1 cars. They don't look like they are made of paper when finished.
I have seen a site on this guy,OR someone else Could there be two chaps doing this?I have a mate who builds paper models in Austria. Mainly F1 cars. They don't look like they are made of paper when finished.
There is another guy in Italy who builds paper Ferraris. Those are the only two I've heard of.
El stovey said:
Nice work dr, will It have swastikas on the deck?
Plus is it going to be built as it looks with the hull submerged or with the hull showing?
Ta. It’ll be a ‘waterline’ model to match the others, ie only the structure above the waterline.Plus is it going to be built as it looks with the hull submerged or with the hull showing?
Edited by El stovey on Tuesday 8th October 22:23
The swastikas - as is often the case on models - are a pain in the arse. I’ve ended up 3D printing a scaled version (much to the wife’s alarm
):
So I can align it with the deck circles, and clock it with the edges at the quadrant points:
Then draw the outline with a mechanical pencil, mask to the lines and airbrush it black. This was a test (it’s a mirror image by mistake):
Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 8th October 23:33
Not much progress - all my modelling projects have got bogged down recently. HMV kindly sent me a plain deck .pdf, but I couldnt colour match the prints. There were also potential issues with fading. So with heavy heart, I made a start on airbrushing swastikas onto the plain circles, using the 3D printed template:
The foredeck swastika spans several raised parts, so is much more difficult to mask:
The foredeck swastika spans several raised parts, so is much more difficult to mask:
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Halmyre said:
I'm slightly baffled as to why the German Navy would paint what are effectively two huge target markers on their shiny new warship. 
Two ways of looking at it I suppose: during the final battle to sink the Bismarck, Swordfish aircraft from Ark Royal initially attacked HMS Sheffield by mistake (luckily all the torpedoes failed to detonate). So maybe giant RAF roundels on the decks would have prevented that? Then again if the Swordfish crew knew the Bismarck had swastikas on the deck, why did they attack Sheffield? Answer must be that they wouldn't have been in a position to clearly see the decks during their attack runs.4321go said:
Given the tons of bombs and shells lobbed I vain by both the Royal Navy and the RAF at the German capital ships during the course of the war, the idea that these insignia could ever be considered as targets is a little wide of the mark....... every pun intended!
I think he menat they marked the ship itself as a target, not that the actual circles were individual targets!irocfan said:
dr_gn said:
I think he menat they marked the ship itself as a target, not that the actual circles were individual targets!
in fairness (apparently) the US dive-bombers used the Japanese roundels on the Akagi etc as targetsZirconia said:
Germans used dive bombers, did we? I wonder if that was part of the thinking to deal with the RN during an invasion.
The Ark Royal carried Blackburn Skua dive bombers, but not sure if that was at the time the Bismarck was sunk. The AAA on the Bismark would probably have made short work of them, as opposed to the Swordfish, which - I think - flew low enough to make targetting them difficult becasue of declination limits of the Bismarck's guns.Halmyre said:
dr_gn said:
Halmyre said:
I'm slightly baffled as to why the German Navy would paint what are effectively two huge target markers on their shiny new warship.
Two ways of looking at it I suppose: during the final battle to sink the Bismarck, Swordfish aircraft from Ark Royal initially attacked HMS Sheffield by mistake (luckily all the torpedoes failed to detonate). So maybe giant RAF roundels on the decks would have prevented that? Then again if the Swordfish crew knew the Bismarck had swastikas on the deck, why did they attack Sheffield? Answer must be that they wouldn't have been in a position to clearly see the decks during their attack runs.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_...
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