New Generation Vantage Jacking

[Simon.b]

This is just a confidence check for me really, so am I correct in assuming that to jack the Vantage I need to remove the rubber plug and ideally locate a Jacking Pad spigot at that location. It's just that the handbook is a bit vague with only a general location, I suspect that is what the arrow in the sill indicates. Also any idea what the foil square thing is.



I have inquired as to the availability of the TJA items mentioned on the other thread.

Cheers all,

Simon.

[cayman-black]

I cant help but is that cosmos orange, the best colour imo really looks great!

Sorry i have just seen its scorpus red , looks good any more pictures?

Edited by cayman-black on Friday 2nd October 12:14

[Jon39]

The jacking arrangement with the rubber 'plug', is identical to the first Vantage model.

Don't remove the plugs. The jacking pads sold by a poster on here, have a short spigot which fit inside the 'plug'.

I don't know what the square silve patch is.

[JonnyCJ]

Jon39 said:

I don't know what the square silve patch is.

There's a drain hose of some sort on the nearside front underside on the Gaydon Vantage. Looks like the silver foil is covering something similar.

[john ryan]

Do remove the plug if you are using a conventional jacking spigot/pad.

[Simon.b]

cayman-black said:

I cant help but is that cosmos orange, the best colour imo really looks great!

Sorry i have just seen its scorpus red , looks good any more pictures?

Edited by cayman-black on Friday 2nd October 12:14

Pics in the photo thread, go back to 25th July.

[Simon.b]

Jon39 said:

The jacking arrangement with the rubber 'plug', is identical to the first Vantage model.

Don't remove the plugs. The jacking pads sold by a poster on here, have a short spigot which fit inside the 'plug'.

I don't know what the square silve patch is

I'm lead to believe they are the same from 2009 onwards, but....

Looking at the images of the pads I don't get why they are so complex and if you do leave the rubber plug in place it will be compressed as there is no rebate that I can see.

So I think I'll make my own,

thanks for the help.

Simon.

[john ryan]

Pads are required because the sills wrap under, and must not be squashed by the jack. The sill cut-outs are an irregular shape, hence the odd shape of the pads. I use hardwood pads with an aluminium spigot screwed on for location; easy to cut on a bandsaw.

[Jon39]

Simon.b said:

Jon39 said:

The jacking arrangement with the rubber 'plug', is identical to the first Vantage model.

Don't remove the plugs. The jacking pads sold by a poster on here, have a short spigot which fit inside the 'plug'.

I don't know what the square silve patch is

I'm lead to believe they are the same from 2009 onwards, but....

Looking at the images of the pads I don't get why they are so complex and if you do leave the rubber plug in place it will be compressed as there is no rebate that I can see.

So I think I'll make my own,

thanks for the help.

Simon.

The pads have varying shapes to mostly be clear of the sills. On the 4.7 Vantage, the underneath part of the sill is quite close to the jacking points. Looking at your photo, that aspect does not seem to apply to your car.

I have not, but has anyone taken a close look at the lifts in an Aston Martin dealer workshop?
We buy particular jacking pads to suit our own car, but I would guess that dealers do not keep changing theiir lift pads everytime they lift a differnt model. It would be interesting to know how they go about this.

I understand your reason for wanting to remove the rubber fittings, but cannot imagine that dealers keep doing that for every car they lift. Perhaps there is something we have not taken into account, or maybe it does not matter, or result in damage.

[Simon.b]

I now have a very good set of Jacking Pads for my 2020 Vantage.



These were supplied by Steve & Mary at TMJ and after some discussion with Steve, a few more photos and dimensions he supplied me with a set referred to as AM7. These as spot on very well made and fit very nicely with self hold in the body plugs.

Rear


Front - The pad actually clears the foil patch its just the angle of the photo


The eagle eyed of you will notice however that the first picture also shows two of the pads with the plugs from the body on the pads.

There is also some extra rubber sheet cut to suit the top of the pads. I should mention these were produced by me from 1.5mm sheet rubber and bonded to the pads with double sided tape. For the pads to work as designed these extra bits are not required, added them to prevent the plug flange being fully compressed and may or not extend the life of the plug.



So for a quick and simple solution for New Generation Vantages, the AM7 jacking pad at £59 from TMJ is the one to go for. Thanks to Steve for your cooperation in getting this sorted for me and hope this helps you guys.

Cheers,

Simon.

[Simon.b]

I have now used these modified pads in anger and found a problem with my addition.

Jacked up the front a little higher than needed to just remove the wheel as I wanted to clean inside the wheel arch (you would need this sort of height to add Axle Stands but that's another issue). I removed and cleaned the wheel, but left the car on the jack for 24 hours.

When I then refitted the wheel and removed the Jack the pad appeared stuck. With a little effort the pad came out, the the spigot had been pulled slightly out of position (spigot went back OK) the rubber sheet I added was all distorted out of position and the rubber plug flange was split.

It looked to me like the double sided tape used was acting as lubricant for the rubber sheet which its self was also too soft and because of the height, hence angle of the sill relative to the jack pad it had started to slide out of position.

This was tested this by not jacking as high, all OK. Jacking higher with my addition removed, all OK, but could see the plug was over compressed which was my initial concern.

So I've bought some new plugs from the Essentra Components web site.

These are the exact same ones as fitted by Aston and cost me £20 next day delivery for five each of front and rear,

I've also ordered a harder material and this time I'll use a setting adhesive.

Will let you know how I get on.

Cheers,

Simon.

[Moviestar]

Hi Simon like the color (orange) and the pads look good too :-)

I don't see the AM7 version on the TJA (Steve's) website are they a new addition?

Edited by Moviestar on Friday 30th October 08:41

[Simon.b]

Hi, the colour is Scorpus Red, there's a picture on my profile.

I had a few discussion with Steve and gave him some dimensions and these are what he came up with, so yes I guess AM7 is a new option.

Cheers,

Simon.

[Dewi 2]

Simon.b said:

So I've bought some new plugs from the Essentra Components web site.

These are the exact same ones as fitted by Aston and cost me £20 next day delivery for five each of front and rear,

Just what I wanted, but did not know where to purchase.
Thank you Simon.

[Simon.b]

Sorry I should have mentioned, on the web site search for the product Id's as on the photo.