RC Hellicopters
Discussion
When you consider what to go for as people have said the more expensive item will be rebuildable with cheaper spares. Most of the money on the small heli's actually goes on the radio and control equipment. And the spares for the breakable bits (you will break it 
) are surprisingly cheap and the radio equipment will transfer straight into a new chassis. As said somewhere mine flew straight up at full pelt into the ceiling and total cost of damage was a £5 flybar, you are probably looking for a new heli with the 'toy' manufacturer 
) are surprisingly cheap and the radio equipment will transfer straight into a new chassis. As said somewhere mine flew straight up at full pelt into the ceiling and total cost of damage was a £5 flybar, you are probably looking for a new heli with the 'toy' manufacturer Hi well if you want rc planes and helis I see where your coming from and were talking big boy toys.
the question how bad do you want it and can you afford it if it is a case you want to take it up as pass time rather than just something to play with in the living room.
Then nitro is the way to go and I woulde recomend starting with a raptor 50 rather than the smaler 30 size heli
as the biger you got the more stable they are. but biger = more mone in a crash. How ever the raptor 30 and 50 share 95 percent of the same parts
average crash cost is 50 to 150 quids uunless it was a reall funky chicking dance day.
start up cost look a spending about a grand
ie radio ger servos heli kit enging and gyro starter gear.
and first thing to buy would be a simulator for pc something like g3 for about 100 quid or so but trust me a sim will save a foutune
www.towerhobbies.com/products/realflight/gpmz4400.html
then comes building and setting up whitch idearly it helps to have a experianced flyer look over it trim it out and test fly it and show you how to start it up with out getting a slap from the blades.
or there a prity good chance you get hurt never see the againg to you read in local paper it landed on someones head 5 milse away or at best
it just whent up and come down in 500 pices and im not kidding about that.
as a silly thing like not locktighting some part can have you wereing a blade
be under no ilustion heil are dangerous blades trave at aroun 200 miles an hour and they dont just hurt they slice and dice
a rc plain prop will take you finger off thing what a heli blade will do
and onece you proficent on sim .you start to learn to hover on traing gear ie 2 crosed rods straped to skids so its harder to tip it over
nver just a few feet of ground untill you can hover ther ages the you turn and learn to hover side in
the object of the came is learning to hover at all orinentation before you try flying around then leart to move it sideways a touch and bacward and forwards slowly later doing figers of 8s
againg it helps having some one there
that said i did learn all on my own without any help but that aint recomended
a good shop/shops i can recomend is www.alshobbies.com/
and als a prity nice guy
heres a small video of us flying just after we frist took the hobby up thing it was the t11 tank of gas i had flying.
shouldent real been fly in locl park realy for safty resons but it was becaes of acsses due to m8 best fred that i fly with is wheel chair bound.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dragonlord002/raptor1.w
your will see at the end him with on the traing rods for a secon or two the hils are both rator 30
reson a say learn on a 50 is crash cost is about the same for both but you regret no having the beter power to rate ratio later if you go for 30 first as i did
as the 30 are a bit underpower
the 50 power to rate ratio is great
the 60 size one are a lot of mone and under powered
90 size heils are alot of cash ie looking at over 3grand plus and your cry like a bay when you crash a 90
Your be suprise too know how much my 90se burnds in fuel running 30% nitro about 40- 50 mnins air time to tha gallon and its about 20 quid a gallon
Thing is one you get hookes on rc stuff epecily helicopters I will end up costing you and you need a understanding Mrs/RC widow
ps i started with the biger nitro ant that where you need to start if that what you really want as the fly different to electrics.
i only have the electric for playing with when im board in the living room ant the weather to bad to go out flying
but if you get in too helis or even are thing about it get a simulator it will save you a foutune even if you decide heils are not for you and end not getting a heli
lastly hils are not like any other RC the are the ulitimate RC the most expencive the time consumin the most dangerous and the mostr rewarding to learn to control
but there not some thing you can just pick up and do like rc cars. they take time efort and money. but heli guys never get board like the xar boys do there all ways a new move to learn
and the buzz you get when you do your first inverted hover with the blads 2 inches from cuting the grass you wont forget
www.avitop.com/AspNetForums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2720
lastly heres some links for more reserash on helis
shops
www.alshobbies.com/
www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/acatalog/m_index.htm
www.skylinemodels.co.uk/acatalog/
www.realraptors.co.uk/
www.helibits.co.uk/
als a great guy the gys at sky line a good blockes
and alan at helibits is amazing at getting you spares quick in the mail
infact the forst time i orded from hime there was a mess up with my card detail but he posted me the parts anyway before id payed him
others
www.runryder.com/
and finaly the amazing rapptor dedicated site
www.raptortechnique.com/
A few thing to note two a play flys forward you point it it gos where its pointed A heli dose not it can fly in any direction
and one of the bigest thing that is hard to learn is nose in Hover as left and right are srevirsed when it comin to wards you
and is very unatral for you brain to process.
Its kind of like the push bikes they used have at the fair that stered the wroung way that you brain couldent handed but once you train tyor brain and hnd you can do as easy as you ride a normal bike.
same with rc helis but if you ask a a pirlot that fly realfull size helis and rc helis he will tell you the rc ones are harder to fly because you have no input othere than your eyes.
this is why a sim is an so usefull as it trains you brain with out you spending thosands on new helis parts
and even when you been fly years there still usefull for learning new moves.
ie sim it get it right on sim then ~I try carfuly on 50 once i can do it all day on the 50 thats cheaper too fix
I then dare try it on the Raptor 90se
ps donaldsmith is outlaw the one and only
>> Edited by OUTLAW-1 on Friday 6th January 04:43
the question how bad do you want it and can you afford it if it is a case you want to take it up as pass time rather than just something to play with in the living room.
Then nitro is the way to go and I woulde recomend starting with a raptor 50 rather than the smaler 30 size heli
as the biger you got the more stable they are. but biger = more mone in a crash. How ever the raptor 30 and 50 share 95 percent of the same parts
average crash cost is 50 to 150 quids uunless it was a reall funky chicking dance day.
start up cost look a spending about a grand
ie radio ger servos heli kit enging and gyro starter gear.
and first thing to buy would be a simulator for pc something like g3 for about 100 quid or so but trust me a sim will save a foutune
www.towerhobbies.com/products/realflight/gpmz4400.html
then comes building and setting up whitch idearly it helps to have a experianced flyer look over it trim it out and test fly it and show you how to start it up with out getting a slap from the blades.
or there a prity good chance you get hurt never see the againg to you read in local paper it landed on someones head 5 milse away or at best
it just whent up and come down in 500 pices and im not kidding about that.
as a silly thing like not locktighting some part can have you wereing a blade
be under no ilustion heil are dangerous blades trave at aroun 200 miles an hour and they dont just hurt they slice and dice
a rc plain prop will take you finger off thing what a heli blade will do
and onece you proficent on sim .you start to learn to hover on traing gear ie 2 crosed rods straped to skids so its harder to tip it over
nver just a few feet of ground untill you can hover ther ages the you turn and learn to hover side in
the object of the came is learning to hover at all orinentation before you try flying around then leart to move it sideways a touch and bacward and forwards slowly later doing figers of 8s
againg it helps having some one there
that said i did learn all on my own without any help but that aint recomended
a good shop/shops i can recomend is www.alshobbies.com/
and als a prity nice guy
heres a small video of us flying just after we frist took the hobby up thing it was the t11 tank of gas i had flying.
shouldent real been fly in locl park realy for safty resons but it was becaes of acsses due to m8 best fred that i fly with is wheel chair bound.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dragonlord002/raptor1.w
your will see at the end him with on the traing rods for a secon or two the hils are both rator 30
reson a say learn on a 50 is crash cost is about the same for both but you regret no having the beter power to rate ratio later if you go for 30 first as i did
as the 30 are a bit underpower
the 50 power to rate ratio is great
the 60 size one are a lot of mone and under powered
90 size heils are alot of cash ie looking at over 3grand plus and your cry like a bay when you crash a 90
Your be suprise too know how much my 90se burnds in fuel running 30% nitro about 40- 50 mnins air time to tha gallon and its about 20 quid a gallon
Thing is one you get hookes on rc stuff epecily helicopters I will end up costing you and you need a understanding Mrs/RC widow
ps i started with the biger nitro ant that where you need to start if that what you really want as the fly different to electrics.
i only have the electric for playing with when im board in the living room ant the weather to bad to go out flying
but if you get in too helis or even are thing about it get a simulator it will save you a foutune even if you decide heils are not for you and end not getting a heli
lastly hils are not like any other RC the are the ulitimate RC the most expencive the time consumin the most dangerous and the mostr rewarding to learn to control
but there not some thing you can just pick up and do like rc cars. they take time efort and money. but heli guys never get board like the xar boys do there all ways a new move to learn
and the buzz you get when you do your first inverted hover with the blads 2 inches from cuting the grass you wont forget
www.avitop.com/AspNetForums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2720
lastly heres some links for more reserash on helis
shops
www.alshobbies.com/
www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/acatalog/m_index.htm
www.skylinemodels.co.uk/acatalog/
www.realraptors.co.uk/
www.helibits.co.uk/
als a great guy the gys at sky line a good blockes
and alan at helibits is amazing at getting you spares quick in the mail
infact the forst time i orded from hime there was a mess up with my card detail but he posted me the parts anyway before id payed him
others
www.runryder.com/
and finaly the amazing rapptor dedicated site
www.raptortechnique.com/
A few thing to note two a play flys forward you point it it gos where its pointed A heli dose not it can fly in any direction
and one of the bigest thing that is hard to learn is nose in Hover as left and right are srevirsed when it comin to wards you
and is very unatral for you brain to process.
Its kind of like the push bikes they used have at the fair that stered the wroung way that you brain couldent handed but once you train tyor brain and hnd you can do as easy as you ride a normal bike.
same with rc helis but if you ask a a pirlot that fly realfull size helis and rc helis he will tell you the rc ones are harder to fly because you have no input othere than your eyes.
this is why a sim is an so usefull as it trains you brain with out you spending thosands on new helis parts
and even when you been fly years there still usefull for learning new moves.
ie sim it get it right on sim then ~I try carfuly on 50 once i can do it all day on the 50 thats cheaper too fix
I then dare try it on the Raptor 90se
ps donaldsmith is outlaw the one and only
>> Edited by OUTLAW-1 on Friday 6th January 04:43
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