RC Heli's

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Davi

17,153 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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I'd agree with roop, definitely viable to be hovering within 2 hours on a rappy, they really are a gem to learn on if set up correctly. Of course it depends greatly on your co-ordination and learning speed, I know of one gent at our flying site that is still struggling with hover after 2 years!!!! He won't give up though!

triple7

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4,013 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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Davi said:
........of course it depends greatly on your co-ordination and learning speed, I know of one gent at our flying site that is still struggling with hover after 2 years!!!! He won't give up though!


You're looking at another I feel............................ laugh

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triple7

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4,013 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st February 2007
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apache said:
They said they'll train us both to hover in 2 hours. Is this realistic? and how hard are they to fly?


Yup, you'll be this good by the end of the month. hehe

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?d

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apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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Bloody hell, he needs to learn how to get that puppy under control!


anyone want to buy a raptor

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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Have you had a go then...??? What did you think...?


apache said:
Bloody hell, he needs to learn how to get that puppy under control!


anyone want to buy a raptor

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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not yet just heard from the shop owner that it is all set up and flies beautifully so will probably have a go this we

quite chuffed it works so well

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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Excellent. They do fly well. Get some pics...!

Rup

Steve_T

6,356 posts

273 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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triple7 said:
apache said:
They said they'll train us both to hover in 2 hours. Is this realistic? and how hard are they to fly?


Yup, you'll be this good by the end of the month. hehe

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?d

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Whoa! That's insane!! I'm going to hazard a guess he's on at least hour 3.

Davi

17,153 posts

221 months

Friday 2nd February 2007
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Steve_T said:
triple7 said:
apache said:
They said they'll train us both to hover in 2 hours. Is this realistic? and how hard are they to fly?


Yup, you'll be this good by the end of the month. hehe

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?d

G




Whoa! That's insane!! I'm going to hazard a guess he's on at least hour 3.


I fly just like that

the only difference is he's doing it intentionally, I'm trying to get the barsteward back under control hehe

triple7

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4,013 posts

238 months

Saturday 3rd February 2007
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hehe

As someone says he makes it fly like a dragonfly, amazing!

Apache, get some traing gear on that Raptor, before you 'give it a go', save you immediate expensive me thinks!

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apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Saturday 3rd February 2007
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got some

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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BUGGER!!

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

244 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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I've got an RC simulator and can't fly the damned helis for love nor money. That Google video is amazing!

( I can fly the RC 747 like a true terrorist though )

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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Oh dear. Looks like main and tail blades, mainshaft, boom, feathers and possible tail output shaft pitch sliders and belt. Nothing that £100 or so won't fix.

Come on then, what happened...?

Any pics before it got stacked...?



apache said:

BUGGER!!


apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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I think the grub screws holding the tail rotor hub to the shaft loosened off, it started spinning as the tail rotor stopped working and was still spinning as it hit the ground causing the main rotor to smack the tail boom. Damage looks worse than it is thankfully

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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Bad luck mate. Check those grub screws. Given that its just been given the once over by a model shop there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why they should have loosened to the extent that they no longer gripped the flats properly. To put this in perspective, I have never had to tighten or adjust those screws on my Raptor 30 since I built it over 3 years ago.

If they did indeed come loose then I'd be inclided to have a chat with the person at the shop that did the work on the helicopter. Sure it's your responsibility to pre-flight the helicopter properly but if they hadn't been lock-tite'd into place they they will come loose very easily and that is blatantly the fault of the bloke at the store that serviced it.

If it is the case then I'd suggest they help you to fix the heli (eg: go halves on the cost, supply parts at cost or whatever you see fit).

apache said:
I think the grub screws holding the tail rotor hub to the shaft loosened off, it started spinning as the tail rotor stopped working and was still spinning as it hit the ground causing the main rotor to smack the tail boom. Damage looks worse than it is thankfully

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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One more thing - did you check the tension of the belt before you flew...???

apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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Faults all mine, I built it and wouldn't expect them to check those. Main rotors, tail boom, tail case and fins, not too bad

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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Fair enough, but if I was running a shop and someone asked me to check over a helicopter they'd just built I'd be checking all flight critical components, which in a heli is virtually everything.

When rebuilding, I would highly recommend you strip down everything from the main shaft to make sure it hasn't been bent (roll it on a dead flat surface to check). Also, operate all servos across their full ranges and check for any abnormal noise, judders or stickiness. The impact may have stripped gears inside causing inevitable problems next time you fly. Gyro manufacturers recommend you do not fly a crashed gyro. Some (CSM anyway) offer a free check service for your gyro after it's had a bump. may well be worth having it health-checked. Ball linkages are always given a hard work out in a crash, so check they haven't been distorted and still clip together nice and snug.

Finally, any metal component that screws into another metal component lock-tite it to buggery. Helicopters are well known for being a mass of 10,000 parts trying to vibrate themselves apart - that's just the real ones..!!!

Goodluck for the fix and if you need any help, just ask.

Davi

17,153 posts

221 months

Sunday 4th February 2007
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just to add to roop's comments - make sure you have throttle hold set up on the appropriate Tx switch. When activated this should take the engine instantly to idle. When you next have a problem like this (note not if ) you flick it straight into throttle hold, which effectively disconnects drive to the rotors. Believe me, it can save you a bloomin fortune in parts and repairs!!

In this instance it would have been particularly effective as (dependant on height) you also have no torque being applied that the tail needs to counter, so it would have stopped pirouetting. Momentum in the blades would also have given *limited* control on the descent.