RC Heli's

[triple7]

Better than that, just used some tape! She flies great (kinda an understatement! Those lessons have done me no good, just not thinking enough about it!) Oh well the battery pack is charged (although I've toasted those by forgetting they are on charge, whoops!)

Rich, exactly why I have been dragging my feet over buying a chopper for years, didn't want to splash out on a Raptor and then a) smash it to bist and b) spend a load of money and get bored! Hence the electrics are the way to go.

I have found it frustrating, but so far worthwhile, but if I could just get it airborne for more than 3 secs I'll be a happy man!

Link to my chopper here: http://sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shop

G

[Davi]

LOL yeah tape is a great way for those quick fixes on these things - I've seen heli's that look like a ball of screwed up tape flying around

the lessons only work if you follow them exactly. Boring, yes, but ultimately they do work if you put the effort in.

Using "alternative" methods of learning you'll have the fun factor ( oh look, it's in the air!!! oh look, it's in the telly) but you'll take ten times as long to learn a stable hover, and you will break it. Lots.

[Triple7]

I agree, but I don't learn that way. I need to see whats happening then correct my reaction as opposed to learning 'not to do something' which I can't understand unless I see it. Hard to explain, but I've had a real revaltion this morning. Yes a few times into the wall/sideboard, but now I can get it up for longer (no not being crude!) and my flying is more of a 'controlled' uncontrolled return to the carpet after a mini-hover, if you see what I mean.

Also have found the source of my probs. The swash plates were canted at a silly angle and now I've return them to a better position I need half the power I needed before to get the chopper airborne. Far more controlable too!!!!!

I'm beginning to like this again!

G

[Davi]

good man.

after every mishap, however minor, always check the control surfaces (as you've now found out ) Sometimes you'll come in like a lump of lead with a string vest parachute and won't suffer any damage, but sometimes just twinging the blade on a plant stem that doesn't even bring the heli down can shift things.

[Triple7]

Getting much better!

G

[rich 36]

Triple'

they don't seem too outrageous a price

I think, (following your success)

might pay me to go that route,



Have your efforts,
been directly attributable to loss of ground effect by chance?

Edited by rich 36 on Tuesday 13th February 18:44

[Triple7]

Yes, punch the throttle, get it up away from the ground and I have found if the chopper is higher than a few feet, it is very much more stable, my flights are getting longer and I know what I am doing wrong (keep the fricking tail straight and it behaves!!), just a case of practice now, but my answer to losing control is chopping the power so at present I am trying to stay at between 6-12 inches off the deck and within a couple of feet of where I took off from.

Definately go get this Twister V2 FP, I think it really is fab and a good starting point.

G

Edited by Triple7 on Tuesday 13th February 20:28

[rich 36]

My experience led me to begin losing height
with a jab of throttle just before it lands heavily

creating a cushioning effect,
at last minute,
hopefully
without a yo-yo effect

[marcel.micallef]

I hate small elecrics. If you want too learn nitro. Its best to start out with a nitro. In this whole post I dident notice any mention a sim. buy one it will save you a lot of money.

apache re the tail.
Make shaw you use lock tight on the grub screws, when you do up the nylon lock nuts do not do em up to tight just nip them up or it puts stress on the grub screws and they will fail in flite. also check you have not bent the tail shaft.

Edited by marcel.micallef on Thursday 15th February 00:03

[triple7]

If you can't be ar$ed, loading the car up and heading outside, electrics are great for some armchair action.

G

PS Have cracked chopper flying, couple more weeks and I'll upgrade to a 3D CP!

[apache]

marcel.micallef said:

apache re the tail.
Make shaw you use lock tight on the grub screws, when you do up the nylon lock nuts do not do em up to tight just nip them up or it puts stress on the grub screws and they will fail in flite. also check you have not bent the tail shaft.

thanks, will do

[rich 36]

triple7 said:

If you can't be ar$ed, loading the car up and heading outside, electrics are great for some armchair action.

G

PS Have cracked chopper flying, couple more weeks and I'll upgrade to a 3D


CP!

someones feeling confident,




there
that should put a kink in the learning curve

Edited by rich 36 on Thursday 15th February 20:12

[triple7]

Ha ha Rich. I thonk I've peeked, my hover stabiltiy isn't progressing as fast as I thought. Still more of a graceful circuit!

Still really love the chopper thing!

G

[marcel.micallef]

triple7 said:

Ha ha Rich. I thonk I've peeked, my hover stabiltiy isn't progressing as fast as I thought. Still more of a graceful circuit!

Still really love the chopper thing!

G

Wait till you start doing inverted hovering. I will have warn you helis are more addictive than crack and your Mrs will be going nuts when you come hove with another 3grands worth of heli.

[triple7]

marcel.micallef said:

triple7 said:

Ha ha Rich. I thonk I've peeked, my hover stabiltiy isn't progressing as fast as I thought. Still more of a graceful circuit!

Still really love the chopper thing!

G

Wait till you start doing inverted hovering. I will have warn you helis are more addictive than crack and your Mrs will be going nuts when you come hove with another 3grands worth of heli.

You're not wrong there! Keeps me out of mischief though!

[Davi]

marcel.micallef said:

triple7 said:

Ha ha Rich. I thonk I've peeked, my hover stabiltiy isn't progressing as fast as I thought. Still more of a graceful circuit!

Still really love the chopper thing!

G

Wait till you start doing inverted hovering.

before you start doing inverted hovering, make sure you double check the antenna tube is FIRMLY secured, so it can't decide to come loose at a really inoportune moment, dangling into the blades. - it really is thoroughly depressing standing helpless, the tx swinging by your legs, watching your heli decsend upside down with half the head missing

[marcel.micallef]

Davi I take it your talking from experience m8. Nothing like watching a new 90class heli do the funky chicken, while you watch helplessly and thinking about the bigger beating your credit card will get when its done.

I always use a solid fiberglass antenna tube.

Edited by marcel.micallef on Friday 16th February 10:44

[Davi]

marcel.micallef said:

Davi I take it your talking from experience m8. Nothing like watching a new 90class heli do the funky chicken, while you watch helplessly and thinking about the bigger beating your credit card will get when its done.

I all wways use a solid fiberglass tube

yep

To be honest I wasn't really that bothered, it was quite a while back now, and was my first "full on" attempt at inverted flight, I'd done "extended" loops before, hanging it at the top, getting a feel for the controls, but never full controlled hover and circuits. Flipped it over to start with high up - 2 mistakes high at least, pulled a couple of circuits, back up to high inverted hover ready for a flip, couple of inverted pirouettes and then BANG - bits of head shooting off in all directions.

Not had a 90 class yet, most of my heli's are electric and I can't justify the battery pack prices going above 30 size - the latest glow will be 50/60 size when finished, but that's a scaler so won't be going inverted!

[marcel.micallef]

Yea i fly mostly nitro a raptor50 with a OS hyper and also a raptor 90se.

just started getting in to planks with a funtanX50 and am I building a edge540 giant with a 50cc gasser engine

only orientation That I have trouble with in nose in inverted

Edited by marcel.micallef on Friday 16th February 10:53

[Davi]

planks, now I have a fair few of those - mostly electric again (there are lots of noise restrictions around here) but I've got a couple of big-ish ones, mostly home designed, like this ultimate bipe.



yet to fly it in anger! It's now a wee bit overpowered, prop hangs around 30% throttle.