Quite an impressive model SR71

Quite an impressive model SR71

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nick heppinstall

8,076 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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dr_gn said:
slartibartfast said:
dr_gn said:
Bernie-the-bolt said:
Now this is a big model.... B29 Superfortress

Although, as has been said....................what's the point?
Probably says a lot about me, but this one always has me in stitches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSuawMl4lOo

Just want to punch the commentator in the face. Daft tt.

Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 28th July 21:49
that B52 crash apparently pilot error! expensive error at that.

Paul
The cheapest Wren gas turbine (and I don't know whether you caught it, but there were eight on that model) cost about £1100+vat. So £9k or so in engines alone. In a toy plane.

Why not stettle for just one turbine, a reasonable sized model and give the rest to charity or something?
Why not settle for a Mondeo instead of a Lambo and give the rest to charity ? Or a flat instead of the 5 bedroom detached and give the rest to charity.

Maybe just a toy plane to you. Everyone to their own eh ?

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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nick heppinstall said:
dr_gn said:
slartibartfast said:
dr_gn said:
Bernie-the-bolt said:
Now this is a big model.... B29 Superfortress

Although, as has been said....................what's the point?
Probably says a lot about me, but this one always has me in stitches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSuawMl4lOo

Just want to punch the commentator in the face. Daft tt.

Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 28th July 21:49
that B52 crash apparently pilot error! expensive error at that.

Paul
The cheapest Wren gas turbine (and I don't know whether you caught it, but there were eight on that model) cost about £1100+vat. So £9k or so in engines alone. In a toy plane.

Why not stettle for just one turbine, a reasonable sized model and give the rest to charity or something?
Why not settle for a Mondeo instead of a Lambo and give the rest to charity ? Or a flat instead of the 5 bedroom detached and give the rest to charity.

Maybe just a toy plane to you. Everyone to their own eh ?
Each to thier own indeed. Very true.

I might just try to learn how to drive properly before spazzing all my spare cash on that Lambo though biggrin

BTW, personally, if either of your examples were applicable to me - I might just do that!

Edited by dr_gn on Wednesday 29th July 21:39

nick heppinstall

8,076 posts

280 months

Thursday 30th July 2009
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dr_gn said:
nick heppinstall said:
dr_gn said:
slartibartfast said:
dr_gn said:
Bernie-the-bolt said:
Now this is a big model.... B29 Superfortress

Although, as has been said....................what's the point?
Probably says a lot about me, but this one always has me in stitches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSuawMl4lOo

Just want to punch the commentator in the face. Daft tt.

Edited by dr_gn on Tuesday 28th July 21:49
that B52 crash apparently pilot error! expensive error at that.

Paul
The cheapest Wren gas turbine (and I don't know whether you caught it, but there were eight on that model) cost about £1100+vat. So £9k or so in engines alone. In a toy plane.

Why not stettle for just one turbine, a reasonable sized model and give the rest to charity or something?
Why not settle for a Mondeo instead of a Lambo and give the rest to charity ? Or a flat instead of the 5 bedroom detached and give the rest to charity.

Maybe just a toy plane to you. Everyone to their own eh ?
Each to thier own indeed. Very true.

I might just try to learn how to drive properly before spazzing all my spare cash on that Lambo though biggrin

BTW, personally, if either of your examples were applicable to me - I might just do that!

Edited by dr_gn on Wednesday 29th July 21:39
smile Me too !

timarnold

515 posts

242 months

Thursday 30th July 2009
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One of my favourite R/C jet turbine m9odels (being a helicopter fan) is this Airwolf! smile Great precision landing at the end!

Edited by timarnold on Thursday 30th July 11:46

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Didn't know that he was the technical advisor on the Saturn V revised mouldings.

I can't wait for it to come out.
Saw a photo of it today in a magazine. Looks just like the old one to my eyes apart from a bit of extra moulding on the Command Module cover and a couple of lumps and bumps here and there. Nothing to get too excited about. From what I saw, no extra detailling of the engines to speak of - possibly the best candidates for this. Rest of it's just a black and white tube really.

Why not include something simple but effective like a series of transparent supports so that it could be displayed in seperate sections?

Why do Airfix never get it quite right?

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Don't be too hard on them. I'm just glad they are re-releasing the thing.

The main problem with the original release was that the Lunar Module Adaptor section was too pinched at the top. This resulted in the Service Modele and Command Modules having too small a diameter. The Service Module detail was also based on drawings released by MASA in the mid 1960s showing the original Block 1 Command/Srrvice Module details. This isn't correct for Block 2 Command/Service Modules.

In the end, no Block 1 Command/Service Module ever flew on a Saturn V so it is totally wrong for the V, although one Block 1 did fly on an unmanned Saturn IB mission - so you can get away with the arrangement when building the Airfix Saturn IB - if you can find one that is. They are VERY rare.

The new parts for the re-release feature a better shaped Lunar Module Adoptor section and correct panelling for a Block 2 Command/Service Module.

Hopefully, the painting instructions will be corrected to show the right details for a real Saturn V. The old instructions showed the colour scheme used on the full sized dummy Saturn V used for pad and vibration tests in 1966/67.

To be fair to Airfix, virtually all the Apollo models released by the mainstream manufacturers at the time of the Apollo missions suffered from similar inaccuracies. Nearly all of them were based on boiler plate or early sets of drawings and the real flight equipment differed quite a bit.

RealSpace Models do some lovely modern resin models of Apollo hardware but they are fairly expensive. I have to say, I have been tempted by some of the models they show on their website.

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Don't be too hard on them. I'm just glad they are re-releasing the thing.

The main problem with the original release was that the Lunar Module Adaptor section was too pinched at the top. This resulted in the Service Modele and Command Modules having too small a diameter. The Service Module detail was also based on drawings released by MASA in the mid 1960s showing the original Block 1 Command/Srrvice Module details. This isn't correct for Block 2 Command/Service Modules.

In the end, no Block 1 Command/Service Module ever flew on a Saturn V so it is totally wrong for the V, although one Block 1 did fly on an unmanned Saturn IB mission - so you can get away with the arrangement when building the Airfix Saturn IB - if you can find one that is. They are VERY rare.

The new parts for the re-release feature a better shaped Lunar Module Adoptor section and correct panelling for a Block 2 Command/Service Module.

Hopefully, the painting instructions will be corrected to show the right details for a real Saturn V. The old instructions showed the colour scheme used on the full sized dummy Saturn V used for pad and vibration tests in 1966/67.

To be fair to Airfix, virtually all the Apollo models released by the mainstream manufacturers at the time of the Apollo missions suffered from similar inaccuracies. Nearly all of them were based on boiler plate or early sets of drawings and the real flight equipment differed quite a bit.

RealSpace Models do some lovely modern resin models of Apollo hardware but they are fairly expensive. I have to say, I have been tempted by some of the models they show on their website.
I'd have a go at super-detailling the engines, but as for the rest of it...I can't get too excited by a tubular bit of plastic (my missus may well have a different opinion).

Why not do a photo-etch / additional plastic detail kit for this kind of specialist stuff? I'm sure they'd sell a fair amount. It can't be that expensive to photo-etch parts. Even a sheet showing how you could add basic external pipework would be great. Like I said, something as simple as a display stand to show an 'exploded view' would have been a nice touch. It was a perfect opportunity for them to make the benchmark Saturn V model, and they appear to have blown it. Having siad that, the photos on many new Revell boxes look rubbish, and carry the disclaimer 'prototype model depicted' or similar. Hopefully it will be the case with Airfix.




Zad

12,703 posts

236 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Talking of engines. Several of Matt's models were on this month's (that is to say July's) Sky At Night. In the background was a model of one of the Saturn's F1 engines. Chances are it was this model (250$):



http://www.customreplicas.com/F1.htm

Another site well worth browsing around for a few minutes/hours.

dr_gn

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Zad said:
Talking of engines. Several of Matt's models were on this month's (that is to say July's) Sky At Night. In the background was a model of one of the Saturn's F1 engines. Chances are it was this model (250$):



http://www.customreplicas.com/F1.htm

Another site well worth browsing around for a few minutes/hours.
$250? For that?

MartG

20,680 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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dr_gn said:
I'd have a go at super-detailling the engines, but as for the rest of it...I can't get too excited by a tubular bit of plastic (my missus may well have a different opinion).
A pity none of the manufacturers have updated their kits to show the first stage F-1 engines as actually flown i.e. covered in insulation, though RealSpace do a nice set in 1/96 ( see below ). There is a guy who advertises some 1/144 ones on ebay, but from the ebay photo's they look rather amateurish, as do his improved J-2s