Latest Project: Matchbox 1/32 Bf-109E-3

[dr_gn]

I had no idea we had lurkers! (ETA...obviously).

Thanks guys.

Edited by dr_gn on Friday 26th November 14:26

[mybrainhurts]

Well done, that man...superb dexterous faffery...

Any idea why that example did not carry a swastika..?

[xllifts]

mybrainhurts said:

Well done, that man...superb dexterous faffery...

Any idea why that example did not carry a swastika..?

The swastika has been painted out. That was because the Wing Commander, Hans-Jürgen Erdmann von Cramon-Taubadel married a girl who, in Goering's opinion, was not suitable (Jewish). He therefore ordered the unit to remove their "Ace of Spades" mascot from the cowlings of their Messerschmitts and paint a red band around the noses of their aircraft as a mark of shame. When Cramon-Taubadel was replaced, the “Ace of Spades” mascot was reinstated, but, in response to this, the unit overpainted the swastikas of their aircraft in protest.

[dr_gn]

mybrainhurts said:

Well done, that man...superb dexterous faffery...

Any idea why that example did not carry a swastika..?

Yeah ta.

Re. the Swastika - or more correctly Hakencreuz, whatever, who cares. This is what I found out about the aircraft and the unit (earlier in the thread). This is the commonly stated story, possibly incorrect in chronology, since nobody really knows what happened and when, and various photos contradict each other if the dates on teh back are to be believed. It was almost certainly painted out as some kind of protest by the pilots though:

This is Bf 109 E4 "White 5" of 3rd Gruppe/JG 53, shot down over Margate, Kent on 6th September 1940. The pilot was Unteroffizier Schulte and the aircraft crash landed near Manston airfield. The swastika has been painted out. That was because the Wing Commander, Hans-Jürgen Erdmann von Cramon-Taubadel married a girl who, in Goering's opinion, was not suitable (Jewish). He therefore ordered the unit to remove their "Ace of Spades" mascot from the cowlings of their Messerschmitts and paint a red band around the noses of their aircraft as a mark of shame. When Cramon-Taubadel was replaced, the “Ace of Spades” mascot was reinstated, but, in response to this, the unit overpainted the swastikas of their aircraft in protest.

The photo is taken in Barker's Pool, Sheffield. It was displayed in aid of the Sheffield Newspapers War Fund (some kind of fundraising effort where you could buy a sticker and put it on the aircraft). As a 10 year old boy, my Dad was shown around it.

Cheers

[72twink]

Brilliant thread - lovely result ...... Nice work!!

[Mr. Potato Head]

dr_gn said:

I had no idea we had lurkers! (ETA...obviously).

Another lurker. Top job dr_gn, very impressive.

Postman delivered an H&S today on the back of this thread.

[dr_gn]

Thanks 72twink!

MPH - an H&S airbrush? I'm sure it will be excellent.

What modelling do you do (cars/aircraft/boats etc) ?

[Mr. Potato Head]

Haven't built one in years. Got a Lotus 25 and a Spitfire 1A to be going on with.

[dr_gn]

Mr. Potato Head said:

Haven't built one in years. Got a Lotus 25 and a Spitfire 1A to be going on with.

Excellent! Both Tamiaya I hope? The Lotus 25 is a stonker straight from the box (as are most Tamiya models)



No idea where my exhausts went. The only thng about it that's a bit naff is the clear plastic simulation of the mesh intake filter cover. It might be worth making a new one out of some fine mesh. Whatever, enjoy yourself and post some pics.

[Mr. Potato Head]

Lotus kit is the same but the Spitfire is 1/48 Airfix. It was in a window I walked past for 12 quid. It being the first model for a while, and the first I will have airbrushed cheaper is probably better.

Going off topic now, that rather lovely 109.

[dr_gn]

Mr. Potato Head said:

Lotus kit is the same but the Spitfire is 1/48 Airfix. It was in a window I walked past for 12 quid. It being the first model for a while, and the first I will have airbrushed cheaper is probably better.

Going off topic now, that rather lovely 109.

Good luck with them both.

Off topic? I'm not too bothered - they're all models and I like reading about and looking at other peoples work; always something to learn.

[ferrisbueller]

Amazing stuff, Doc.

What next?

[dr_gn]

ferrisbueller said:

Amazing stuff, Doc.

What next?

Cheers Ferris.

A 1:32 SE5a biplane for Christmas, then a 1:20 F1 car, probably another McLaren MP4/13, but super-detailled this time.

What's next for you??

[Furious Styles]

Completely and utterly superb that man - been lurking and watching this one for a while wishing i had the dedication ( not to mention skill ) to do something similar!!

[mybrainhurts]

dr_gn said:

mybrainhurts said:

Well done, that man...superb dexterous faffery...

Any idea why that example did not carry a swastika..?

Yeah ta.

Re. the Swastika - or more correctly Hakencreuz, whatever, who cares. This is what I found out about the aircraft and the unit (earlier in the thread). This is the commonly stated story, possibly incorrect in chronology, since nobody really knows what happened and when, and various photos contradict each other if the dates on teh back are to be believed. It was almost certainly painted out as some kind of protest by the pilots though:

This is Bf 109 E4 "White 5" of 3rd Gruppe/JG 53, shot down over Margate, Kent on 6th September 1940. The pilot was Unteroffizier Schulte and the aircraft crash landed near Manston airfield. The swastika has been painted out. That was because the Wing Commander, Hans-Jürgen Erdmann von Cramon-Taubadel married a girl who, in Goering's opinion, was not suitable (Jewish). He therefore ordered the unit to remove their "Ace of Spades" mascot from the cowlings of their Messerschmitts and paint a red band around the noses of their aircraft as a mark of shame. When Cramon-Taubadel was replaced, the “Ace of Spades” mascot was reinstated, but, in response to this, the unit overpainted the swastikas of their aircraft in protest.

The photo is taken in Barker's Pool, Sheffield. It was displayed in aid of the Sheffield Newspapers War Fund (some kind of fundraising effort where you could buy a sticker and put it on the aircraft). As a 10 year old boy, my Dad was shown around it.

Cheers

Fascinating,thanks...

Sorry, missed it earlier.

[mattviatura]

dr_gn said:

Mattiviatura: How did you get on with your own research?? Did you find any info on the Catalina/Sunderland?

Letter went to RAF Disclosures Section yesterday, I'll keep you informed. Thanks again.

[dr_gn]

mattviatura said:

dr_gn said:

Mattiviatura: How did you get on with your own research?? Did you find any info on the Catalina/Sunderland?

Letter went to RAF Disclosures Section yesterday, I'll keep you informed. Thanks again.

Great. Any info on squadrons or units and dates might lead to something model-able!

Thanks again for all the comments on the '109 folks. Much appreciated.

[ferrisbueller]

dr_gn said:

ferrisbueller said:

Amazing stuff, Doc.

What next?

Cheers Ferris.

A 1:32 SE5a biplane for Christmas, then a 1:20 F1 car, probably another McLaren MP4/13, but super-detailled this time.

What's next for you??

I buy diecast. I lack the skill, dexterity and patience to try and emulate your efforts.

[dr_gn]

ferrisbueller said:

dr_gn said:

ferrisbueller said:

Amazing stuff, Doc.

What next?

Cheers Ferris.

A 1:32 SE5a biplane for Christmas, then a 1:20 F1 car, probably another McLaren MP4/13, but super-detailled this time.

What's next for you??

I buy diecast. I lack the skill, dexterity and patience to try and emulate your efforts.

Have you ever tried building a model? You seem to be interested so there's no doubt that you could at least make a start.

[Mr. Potato Head]

dr_gn said:

Can I ask you what you used for the racing green? Can't see the spec Tamiya paint at the online shops. I ended up in Halfords, but all their rattle can BRGs are metallic and possibly not dark enough. Is that dust on your model or metallic?

Cheers!

Edited by Mr. Potato Head on Friday 3rd December 23:37