Latest Project: Matchbox 1/32 Bf-109E-3

Latest Project: Matchbox 1/32 Bf-109E-3

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dr_gn

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16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Mr. Potato Head said:
dr_gn said:
Can I ask you what you used for the racing green? Can't see the spec Tamiya paint at the online shops. I ended up in Halfords, but all their rattle can BRGs are metallic and possibly not dark enough. Is that dust on your model or metallic?

Cheers!

Edited by Mr. Potato Head on Friday 3rd December 23:37
It's dust. Thanks for noticing!

The colour, IIRC, is Humbrol Super Enamel #3 "Brunswick Green" applied with an airbrush. No idea if it's correct, but it'll do for me. They seem to do a spray can now:

http://www.humbrol.com/paints/modellers-spray-pain...

Must admit last time I used a Humbrol gloss spray can, it took literally weeks to dry fully. Hopefully the newer ones are better.

Cheers.

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Lotus used a wide variety of shades of green over the years. From colour pictures I've seen of the Lotus 25/33 cars, the green was possibly a shade lighter than Humbrol Brunswick green - but colours in photos can be notoriously difficult to interpret.

Looking at the restored examples I've seen at Goodwood, Lotus green of that period did have a slight olive tint to it - but again, how do we know the resorers have got it precisely right either?.

Here are some restored Lotus cars from the late 50s/early 60s






ferrisbueller

29,335 posts

227 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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dr_gn said:
ferrisbueller said:
dr_gn said:
ferrisbueller said:
Amazing stuff, Doc.

What next?
Cheers Ferris.

A 1:32 SE5a biplane for Christmas, then a 1:20 F1 car, probably another McLaren MP4/13, but super-detailled this time.

What's next for you??
I buy diecast. I lack the skill, dexterity and patience to try and emulate your efforts.
Have you ever tried building a model? You seem to be interested so there's no doubt that you could at least make a start.
The things is Doc, people like yourself and skii set the bar so high that when someone like me sits down to try and achieve the result, and can't, it's really annoying. People would pay a lot of money for the models you create IMO, as they're probably better than diecast off-the-shelf offerings. Mine would never match what I can buy in a box for a relatively modest outlay, so I save myself the heartache and swearing!

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Why don't you start with simple, cheap kits?

If you mess them up, there is no real financial loss. Even after all these years of model making I still screw up - especially if I am using a new material or new technique for the first time. Persistence does bring improvement.

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
dr_gn said:
ferrisbueller said:
dr_gn said:
ferrisbueller said:
Amazing stuff, Doc.

What next?
Cheers Ferris.

A 1:32 SE5a biplane for Christmas, then a 1:20 F1 car, probably another McLaren MP4/13, but super-detailled this time.

What's next for you??
I buy diecast. I lack the skill, dexterity and patience to try and emulate your efforts.
Have you ever tried building a model? You seem to be interested so there's no doubt that you could at least make a start.
The things is Doc, people like yourself and skii set the bar so high that when someone like me sits down to try and achieve the result, and can't, it's really annoying. People would pay a lot of money for the models you create IMO, as they're probably better than diecast off-the-shelf offerings. Mine would never match what I can buy in a box for a relatively modest outlay, so I save myself the heartache and swearing!
For me, it's not about cost or value, or what you can buy off-the-shelf for the same money, it's about enjoyment (or it should be!). Go for something with a one-colour scheme like a modern jet (usually grey) and just have a go. If you enjoy it, you will get better with experience. If you don't enjoy it...at least you gave it a go!

Assuming you don't get into weathering, and you're not looking for perfection of paint finish, putting a model together and painting it is a fairly mechanical process; you don't need any artistic skill as such, just patience.

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Lotus used a wide variety of shades of green over the years. From colour pictures I've seen of the Lotus 25/33 cars, the green was possibly a shade lighter than Humbrol Brunswick green - but colours in photos can be notoriously difficult to interpret.
I'm pretty hopeless at colours. I tend to use whatever looks about right and chuck it in the airbrush. I think these two should probably be the same shade of Grey. Let's say the X-32 faded a bit in the sun:



Brunswick Green is close enough for me for the Lotus; it's not like I'll be comparing the model side-by-side with the real thing any time soon!

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Saturday 4th December 2010
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I'll bring my Caterham around (real Caterham that is) smile

DubZeus

1,401 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Nice build with good research. I just bought a Tamiya Celica GT4 after looking at this... so be prepared for a laugh. Will start a thread up when its here.

dr_gn

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16,166 posts

184 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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DubZeus said:
Nice build with good research. I just bought a Tamiya Celica GT4 after looking at this... so be prepared for a laugh. Will start a thread up when its here.
Sould go together nicely. Keep us posted!

Mr. Potato Head

1,150 posts

219 months

Tuesday 7th December 2010
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dr_gn said:
Humbrol Super Enamel #3 "Brunswick Green"
Cheers Doc thumbup

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

191 months

Saturday 8th January 2011
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Since a Catalina was mentioned earlier in this thread and dr_gn's 109 features some fantastic scratchbuilding work, I thought I would post this here.

http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Flugzeuge/Gaeste/Wol...


dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,166 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th January 2011
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SlipStream77 said:
Since a Catalina was mentioned earlier in this thread and dr_gn's 109 features some fantastic scratchbuilding work, I thought I would post this here.

http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Flugzeuge/Gaeste/Wol...
Inspirational. As is this:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

191 months

Saturday 8th January 2011
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dr_gn said:
SlipStream77 said:
Since a Catalina was mentioned earlier in this thread and dr_gn's 109 features some fantastic scratchbuilding work, I thought I would post this here.

http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Flugzeuge/Gaeste/Wol...
Inspirational. As is this:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...
That's amazing, I don't know how he painted the stitching in the seatbelt webbing. I looked through the whole thread once I worked out how to show multiple posts on a single page. hehe

dr_gn

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16,166 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Apologies for the thread bump, but I recently received some excellent information (via a Britmodeller PM) about "White 5" from a relation of the pilot. Just for completeness, here it is:


"During the last week we did some research in the net and stumbled upon the “britmodeller” page. There you posted about your project: Matchbox Bf109E-4 1:32 "White 5". In some posts you were asking about the pilot of the “Sheffield” Bf109E-4 "White 5".
Pilot Uffz. Hans Georg Schulte was my grandfather. He rarely talked about his time in World War II with me. As far as I know, he was shot down two times. The first time he crashed in the British channel and was picked up by the German Marine. Shortly after that crash he went back to flying his “White 5”. He counted for himself 8 victories, from which 7 were verified.
On 6th September his plane was hit while fighting again in the Battle over Britain by a Spitfire. He managed to do an emergency landing in the south of Britain. As far as I know, he was injured by a splinter on the left side of his neck, when his plane was hit. After landing in Britain he must have spent some time in a British military hospital. Later he was transported to Canada as a prisoner of war. There he spent the rest of the war and survived.
After the war he returned to Germany, though I do not know the exact year. When the German Army was reinstalled in the Fifties, he became a pilot again, though he changed to flying helicopters then. He spent some time in the US (e.g. Texas) for some flight instruction courses. Back in Germany he was a helicopter pilot for the new German Army for a couple of years. Later he gave up flying.
Unfortunately he never mentioned anything about technical details of his time flying or details according to the special painting of his “White 5”, the only detail I can remember is, that he was flying with the famous pilot Ernst Udet.
My granddad returned to the UK later in his life to go deer hunting in the north of England and Scotland – and to taste the whiskey ;-). For hunting he returned to Canada as well in the 80ies. In December 2003 he died in the age of 85.

One of the linked pictures in yourpost shows my granddad as a young man:
http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109E/Bf-109E...ce-19...
He is the second man counting from the left side (white shirt, hands in pockets)

Unfortunately we have not found these old pictures or the Matchbox model of “his white 5” earlier. I think my granddad would have been very surprised what happend to his plane after the crash.
Do you know, if there are more pictures or if the real plane exists still anywhere in Britain?
Hope, that you can deal with my information given, though I can not give you more special or technical details.

It is amazing, what one can find in the www though...

Greets from Germany"



Cheers.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I absolutely love these kind of threads - More please!

Simpo Two

85,450 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Stick 'Hans Georg Schulte' into Google and this is top:

http://asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109E/Bf-109E-JG53.7-%28W...

dr_gn

Original Poster:

16,166 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Simpo Two said:
Stick 'Hans Georg Schulte' into Google and this is top:

http://asisbiz.com/il2/Bf-109E/Bf-109E-JG53.7-%28W...
Yep, his website had the best details of the aircraft.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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still the finest Emil model I have ever seen doc

yes

dr_gn

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16,166 posts

184 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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perdu said:
still the finest Emil model I have ever seen doc

yes
Thanks very much Perdu...it seems they're breeding:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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dr_gn said:
Thanks very much Perdu...it seems they're breeding:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showt...
yes


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