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perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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A good thimg to leave that panel out so the detail can be seen, what you have done is bloody good work.

I have come to the opinion that 1/72 is no longer my forté and will not be trying to superdetail in this scale any more. Old eyes and fading concentration after my recent illness bring me to this but, wow, ain't it lovely to see a great exponent at work again.

I rather doubt the wheel well colours my self but TBH whyever shouldn't they be green if you want?

Silver will do for mine though, no bottle for all that hard work getting hidden frown

Still great work dr_gn, I love it.

dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Cheers Perdu,

I'm not doing another 1:72 either (by choice - apart form the Walrus). 1:32 or 1:48 has got to be the way forward.

RE. wheel well colour, from what little research I've done, they were either silver, green or grey. I'm using the Hendon one as justification (even though it's a II):





Definitely interior green with silver legs. I just like the contrast that's all.

perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Is that main leg painted Sky type S? Looks far lighter than cockpit Grey green in the picture.

I hope to redo my favourite 72 sqn Wessex although not superdetailed (simply "detailed") if I don't get busted on an eBay bid and there will also be the folded danglingly flapped Walrus, then onto the massive scaled biggies

[OK 1/48 isnt that massive but a man has to do...]

Seeing the wheel wells in green, I agree there's plenty of scope with a contrast like yours

I really must drag meself down Hendon Way soon, it's been a frightening number of years...

dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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perdu said:
Is that main leg painted Sky type S? Looks far lighter than cockpit Grey green in the picture.

I hope to redo my favourite 72 sqn Wessex although not superdetailed (simply "detailed") if I don't get busted on an eBay bid and there will also be the folded danglingly flapped Walrus, then onto the massive scaled biggies

[OK 1/48 isnt that massive but a man has to do...]

Seeing the wheel wells in green, I agree there's plenty of scope with a contrast like yours

I really must drag meself down Hendon Way soon, it's been a frightening number of years...
Wow, Sky? might be. I'm looking at redoing the wells anyway 'cos I'm not happy with the pale residue stuff. Then again, it might even have turned out to be the right colour now!

Yertis

18,090 posts

267 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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I have to say I agree they look better in green. Re the Sky type S door paint, it maybe that the aircraft was just restored "wrong", I certainly wouldn't assume that the folks who repaint these planes always get their colours completely authentic and original.

Eric Mc

122,161 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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The current restorations tend to be better. The Battle is on its third since it was originally recovered from Iceland.

dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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I'm notoriously crap at colours. In fact now the weathering is finished, it looks more dark green than sky or cockpit green! Trouble is, how do you know what initial colour to paint, when subsequent operations darken or lighten it to some degree?



All I can say is that in-service, a combination of leaking hydraulic fluid, oil, mud and brake dust made my wheel wells very dirty!

Perdu - I resprayed the tractor a bit darker, and it now looks almost black! I'll lighten it with some french blue, but then - right or wrong - that will be the final finish!

BTW does anyone know if the Tempest had visible anhedral on the inner wing panels? Mine does. I think it might need a bit of sanding of the wing joints.

72twink

963 posts

243 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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If it's any help I'm using Tamiya for all my flat coats, Clear, with Flat Base and Tamiya thinners - I never measure any of it just throw it all together and never had any problems other than it maybe not being quite flat enough - which I resolve with more flat base.

perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Not sure about the Tempest

Tiffie definitely had 1º anhedral then 2º dihedral on the outer panels

As Tempest was basically a reshape on the Typhoon maybe Sir Syd left the spar structures alike

Seems like time to hunt a scale plan somewhere

If I come across one tonight I'll post 4 you

As for the tractor I would vote for any dark blue as good enough for accurary sufficient unto the d...

dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Decided on the scheme anyway:



Don't like too many invasion stripes and a sky spinner looks so much better than red!

Perfect.

pacman1

7,322 posts

194 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I saw that scheme too, looks very nice.

TVR red for my spinner, save me buying any more paint. wink

dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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dr_gn said:
Decided on the scheme anyway:



Don't like too many invasion stripes and a sky spinner looks so much better than red!

Perfect.
Just to add: if anyone wants any of the schemes other than the one I'm going for, let me know and you can have the appropriate decals from the sheet:


dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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With the exception of two tiny u/c door stays, I think all the components are now more or less finished and ready for assembly:



Interested to note that both elevators are identical, i.e. asymmetric when fitted to the aircraft:





With the help of some more excellent decals from RedFirecracker, the RAF tractor is now finished. Perhaps it's had one repair and repaint too many since I first built it, but it'll do. Hopefully the colour is acceptable to Perdu!


dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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72twink said:
If it's any help I'm using Tamiya for all my flat coats, Clear, with Flat Base and Tamiya thinners - I never measure any of it just throw it all together and never had any problems other than it maybe not being quite flat enough - which I resolve with more flat base.
I'm getting to grips with XDFF now. The key seems to be to thin it in a separate container about 3:1 before spraying. It takes ages for the thinners to mix, and I think I was getting just the thinners being sprayed, or just neat varnish when I did my usual trick of thinning within the airbrush reservoir!

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

198 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Did you apply some kind of dust to the wheels? Was that just a browny type pastel brushed over the perimeter?

perdu

4,884 posts

200 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Tractor and trolley look fine to me dr_gn

Your resin bits do you credit too

I'm sure most folks would have practised bouncing bomb techniques with them

All looking good too

Was that trolley acc the one from the Airfix polythene airfield accesories set? Looks very familiar...


dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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The_Jackal said:
Did you apply some kind of dust to the wheels? Was that just a browny type pastel brushed over the perimeter?
Yep, Tamiya Pastels. There was a grey one applied overall to highlight the raised details, then brown around the tyres and mudguards. It's all sealed with XDFF varnish, then the tyres, steering wheel and seat brush painted with Klear to give those bits a bit of a sheen.

dr_gn

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16,179 posts

185 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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perdu said:
Was that trolley acc the one from the Airfix polythene airfield accesories set? Looks very familiar...
Cheers Perdu.

The trolley was indeed the one from the Airfix set.

doogalman

705 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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What we need is for some of the guys from the Macro photography section to photo the final results.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Most cameras have a macro setting. Use that with a tripod and the timer function (normally for including yourself in the picture) and you will have a top notch close up photo of your model.
Oh and also lots of natural light.
I thought most of the pics on here have been fine though, unless they use a phone camera.