Renaultsport Megane Cup S 275
Discussion
R12many said:
Are Recaros essential when buying a 275 as the one I'm looking at has the fabric seats?
No, the standard seats hold you really well and are more comfortable than the recaros if you're powerfully built.Heated too if you get the leather ones but the cloth ones are pretty nice in the later facelifts.
Agreed
I didn't spec Recaros for mine because it's a daily and I wanted the extra comfort.
I had them in my last Renault and they used to destroy my back on the motorway
It's a "must have" mostly for vanities sake I feel, because the Sportster CS isn't really that supportive. That's why the Trophy-R has Pole position seats instead.
I didn't spec Recaros for mine because it's a daily and I wanted the extra comfort.
I had them in my last Renault and they used to destroy my back on the motorway
It's a "must have" mostly for vanities sake I feel, because the Sportster CS isn't really that supportive. That's why the Trophy-R has Pole position seats instead.
I loved the Recaros in my 250 Cup. Very comfortable with good back support, but they weren't exactly soft.
I remember driving to the Nurburgring with my dad several years ago and after the 12 hour drive, hopped into his car (a WRX STI) to head to the pub and it was like being dropped into a pool of cotton wool - the seats were so much softer and padded!
I've got a Clio 220 Trophy without Recaros (they weren't an option, they're just normal sports seats), but they've very comfortable and have heaters in them. I'm not sure I could do back to non heated seats! Collecting my 280 Cup today with heated Alcantara seats!
I remember driving to the Nurburgring with my dad several years ago and after the 12 hour drive, hopped into his car (a WRX STI) to head to the pub and it was like being dropped into a pool of cotton wool - the seats were so much softer and padded!
I've got a Clio 220 Trophy without Recaros (they weren't an option, they're just normal sports seats), but they've very comfortable and have heaters in them. I'm not sure I could do back to non heated seats! Collecting my 280 Cup today with heated Alcantara seats!
Alex_6n2 said:
Agreed
I didn't spec Recaros for mine because it's a daily and I wanted the extra comfort.
I had them in my last Renault and they used to destroy my back on the motorway
It's a "must have" mostly for vanities sake I feel, because the Sportster CS isn't really that supportive. That's why the Trophy-R has Pole position seats instead.
Agree with this 100%I didn't spec Recaros for mine because it's a daily and I wanted the extra comfort.
I had them in my last Renault and they used to destroy my back on the motorway
It's a "must have" mostly for vanities sake I feel, because the Sportster CS isn't really that supportive. That's why the Trophy-R has Pole position seats instead.
I actually thought the standard seats were more supportive, and comfy.
MikeGoodwin said:
Alex_6n2 said:
Agreed
I didn't spec Recaros for mine because it's a daily and I wanted the extra comfort.
I had them in my last Renault and they used to destroy my back on the motorway
It's a "must have" mostly for vanities sake I feel, because the Sportster CS isn't really that supportive. That's why the Trophy-R has Pole position seats instead.
Agree with this 100%I didn't spec Recaros for mine because it's a daily and I wanted the extra comfort.
I had them in my last Renault and they used to destroy my back on the motorway
It's a "must have" mostly for vanities sake I feel, because the Sportster CS isn't really that supportive. That's why the Trophy-R has Pole position seats instead.
I actually thought the standard seats were more supportive, and comfy.
ManualOnly said:
One day I hope my car will drive excellent too.
I´ve been to a Motorsport garage twice which use WheelCam (if I did understand it correctly) and also to the Renault dealer.
The rear Toe is out of tolerance on both sides. Total Toe is +10,2 mm.
In august the car will be back to the dealer and they will put on a new rear axle. I very much hope it will be the end of this handling problem.
The rear axle has now been changed. And the car is transformed! Can´t say I notice any difference with or w/o wheel spacers either.I´ve been to a Motorsport garage twice which use WheelCam (if I did understand it correctly) and also to the Renault dealer.
The rear Toe is out of tolerance on both sides. Total Toe is +10,2 mm.
In august the car will be back to the dealer and they will put on a new rear axle. I very much hope it will be the end of this handling problem.
The only difference between old and new axle the mechanic did find was two bushings mounted with larger bolts. I´ve owned my 265 for 2 years and right now it feels like I will never sell it
… but it make me wonder how many RS cars there is out there with handling flaws.
MikeGoodwin said:
Sold LL65 VWV for an E92 M3 recently. Not sure its more fun yet, the Megane was fun in a lot less space than needed in the M3, also the Megane had far better brakes and steering than the M3 does and I think it was more fun at lower speeds than the M3. Itll take me a while to learn what the M3 does. Engine is epic but I am still exploring the chassis.
Megane will be sorely missed and leaving the car I felt like having a pet dog put to sleep. Best car ive owned by far and if the M3 doesnt work out ill be back in the 275 for sure. Or a Lotus.
Just reviving this aspect of the thread...Megane will be sorely missed and leaving the car I felt like having a pet dog put to sleep. Best car ive owned by far and if the M3 doesnt work out ill be back in the 275 for sure. Or a Lotus.
I'm in the process of trading my E92 M3 for what will be my 3rd RS Megane - a flame red 275 with Ohlins, Recaros, Akra etc. I have a 640d Gran Coupe for my daily.
I've had 2 x M3s in less than 5 months, both as weekend cars. I got a refund on one, and the second has been even more problematic. Although it is now nearly sorted, I feel the 'death by a thousand cuts' thing applies. They've been such a PITA I can't enjoy the car any more nor see past the E92's flaws (weight, seating position and obviously very temperamental).
When 100% healthy and on the right sort of roads, they are ballistic and great fun. But on tighter, twisting roads, they're a bit too heavy to really chuck around - i've never really got to grips with the chassis...it feels more of a cruiserweight bruiser than, say, my previous 987.2 Boxster S.
I confess i'm dithering a little on the Meg because I could go back down the Porsche route, but there are downsides to that option too - age, cost of servicing/parts etc. I also think the steering and adjustability of the Meg is a touch better than the 987.2 on 19"s.
The 275 will also be a weekend toy and i'm really interested to see whether the Ohlins take the edge of the very firm ride. For me, that was the only real downside of the Cup chassis.
I'm now on my third. An Extreme Blue 250 Cup. Light on the options, other than keyless entry, RS monitor and something else (forget) but I absolutely love it. After a ballache of a time with an M135i, and a EP3 Type R I felt nothing toward I've rekindled driving for fun. I've had it a month, went out on drives nearly every day.
Having had Recaros in both previous Meganes, the std sport seats are much comfier. The support is identical from both, but the Recaros do look better. That being said, I'm going to stuck some pole positions in it, so std seats didn't bother me.
The main plans are, decat, intercooler, ITG induction kit, map to make it about 320-330, buckets, decent set of wheels and drive the wheels off it.
Having had Recaros in both previous Meganes, the std sport seats are much comfier. The support is identical from both, but the Recaros do look better. That being said, I'm going to stuck some pole positions in it, so std seats didn't bother me.
The main plans are, decat, intercooler, ITG induction kit, map to make it about 320-330, buckets, decent set of wheels and drive the wheels off it.
Blanchimont said:
I'm now on my third. An Extreme Blue 250 Cup. Light on the options, other than keyless entry, RS monitor and something else (forget) but I absolutely love it. After a ballache of a time with an M135i, and a EP3 Type R I felt nothing toward I've rekindled driving for fun. I've had it a month, went out on drives nearly every day.
Having had Recaros in both previous Meganes, the std sport seats are much comfier. The support is identical from both, but the Recaros do look better. That being said, I'm going to stuck some pole positions in it, so std seats didn't bother me.
The main plans are, decat, intercooler, ITG induction kit, map to make it about 320-330, buckets, decent set of wheels and drive the wheels off it.
Lovely colour and an interesting point of view on the recaros. I had no issue with comfort with the standard seats but it was a shame they looked so drab.Having had Recaros in both previous Meganes, the std sport seats are much comfier. The support is identical from both, but the Recaros do look better. That being said, I'm going to stuck some pole positions in it, so std seats didn't bother me.
The main plans are, decat, intercooler, ITG induction kit, map to make it about 320-330, buckets, decent set of wheels and drive the wheels off it.
Did you have either of your last 2 mapped? My 1st one was (an RS Tuning agent) but i thought it a bit too fierce for the FWD - even part throttle overtakes were risky because the extra torque through the diff seemed to aggressively pull the car along any cambers.
My last 275 felt spot on in terms of power for the chassis.
What happened with your m135i?
KPB1973 said:
Did you have either of your last 2 mapped? My 1st one was (an RS Tuning agent) but i thought it a bit too fierce for the FWD - even part throttle overtakes were risky because the extra torque through the diff seemed to aggressively pull the car along any cambers.
My last 275 felt spot on in terms of power for the chassis.
I'm interested in your comments on remaps. I have always heard great things about RS Tuning remaps on RS Meganes, and had thought I would probably get mine done one day (before having driven a standard or mapped car!). I've had my 275 Cup S since Jan 2017 and I honestly do not think it needs more power. It has plenty for the road driving I do (lots of twisty B road, and A road stuff).My last 275 felt spot on in terms of power for the chassis.
Zarco said:
I'm interested in your comments on remaps. I have always heard great things about RS Tuning remaps on RS Meganes, and had thought I would probably get mine done one day (before having driven a standard or mapped car!). I've had my 275 Cup S since Jan 2017 and I honestly do not think it needs more power. It has plenty for the road driving I do (lots of twisty B road, and A road stuff).
I've had a fair few remaps on various cars but none of them have transformed a car to the extent my 250 was. When I drove it away it had gone from feeling 'brisk' to being an absolute animal. The in-gear torque in particular had gone through the roof. But that had its downsides too in terms of driveability.In fairness, I had mine done at one of their agents nr Northants, so it the map was uploaded/amended/applied remotely by RS Tuning via the web, with no rolling road etc done on site. Perhaps if that had of been the case, I could have asked for it to be dialed back a bit.
I agree though - the 250 felt just about 250 on a good day. My 275 felt a bit stronger than its numbers and used to absolutely rip through the rev range. I had no problem keeping up with an 'enthusiastically driven' Golf R.
KPB1973 said:
Blanchimont said:
I'm now on my third. An Extreme Blue 250 Cup. Light on the options, other than keyless entry, RS monitor and something else (forget) but I absolutely love it. After a ballache of a time with an M135i, and a EP3 Type R I felt nothing toward I've rekindled driving for fun. I've had it a month, went out on drives nearly every day.
Having had Recaros in both previous Meganes, the std sport seats are much comfier. The support is identical from both, but the Recaros do look better. That being said, I'm going to stuck some pole positions in it, so std seats didn't bother me.
The main plans are, decat, intercooler, ITG induction kit, map to make it about 320-330, buckets, decent set of wheels and drive the wheels off it.
Lovely colour and an interesting point of view on the recaros. I had no issue with comfort with the standard seats but it was a shame they looked so drab.Having had Recaros in both previous Meganes, the std sport seats are much comfier. The support is identical from both, but the Recaros do look better. That being said, I'm going to stuck some pole positions in it, so std seats didn't bother me.
The main plans are, decat, intercooler, ITG induction kit, map to make it about 320-330, buckets, decent set of wheels and drive the wheels off it.
Did you have either of your last 2 mapped? My 1st one was (an RS Tuning agent) but i thought it a bit too fierce for the FWD - even part throttle overtakes were risky because the extra torque through the diff seemed to aggressively pull the car along any cambers.
My last 275 felt spot on in terms of power for the chassis.
What happened with your m135i?
I didn't, no. I was going to, but sold it. I have been out on a 350hp hybrid turbo'd one on track with Cup 2's. It was at the limit of the performance the car can take and still put through the OEM diff, however since driving that gripper have released diffs for them.
KPB1973 said:
I've had a fair few remaps on various cars but none of them have transformed a car to the extent my 250 was. When I drove it away it had gone from feeling 'brisk' to being an absolute animal. The in-gear torque in particular had gone through the roof. But that had its downsides too in terms of driveability.
In fairness, I had mine done at one of their agents nr Northants, so it the map was uploaded/amended/applied remotely by RS Tuning via the web, with no rolling road etc done on site. Perhaps if that had of been the case, I could have asked for it to be dialed back a bit.
I agree though - the 250 felt just about 250 on a good day. My 275 felt a bit stronger than its numbers and used to absolutely rip through the rev range. I had no problem keeping up with an 'enthusiastically driven' Golf R.
From what I've read on a RS Megane forum, Renault have always been a bit conservative with the quoted output for 250/265/275. I can imagine more torque being a problem with only 2 driven wheels on a slippery/uneven road. In fairness, I had mine done at one of their agents nr Northants, so it the map was uploaded/amended/applied remotely by RS Tuning via the web, with no rolling road etc done on site. Perhaps if that had of been the case, I could have asked for it to be dialed back a bit.
I agree though - the 250 felt just about 250 on a good day. My 275 felt a bit stronger than its numbers and used to absolutely rip through the rev range. I had no problem keeping up with an 'enthusiastically driven' Golf R.
It's the first turbo petrol car I've ever owned (or driven for that matter) so I don't have much to compare it against. It torque steers less than my old 172 Cup which is quite an achievement all things considered!
gutbobs said:
I rarely even use the full 275bhp of sport mode on mine, day to day the 250bhp of normal mode is fine
Never see you post updates of the Megane Rich 
How is it doing these days?Echo the Recaro comments, I'd not be fussed about recaros.
That blue looks incredible I dont think Ive ever seen one on the road
It's been faultless so there's not much to say to be fair, Mike. I've done about 10,000 miles in it, enabled RS monitor and Android auto (makes it much more livable every day).
I'm considering chopping it in for a mk4 trophy at the moment, but it seems to be impossible to find a demo car off even a non trophy version
All this talk about the seats is interesting. Having had the standard seats, but now the recaro's I can say the standard seats hold you as well as the recaro's, but they don't look any where near as nice. One of the main reasons I'm considering a mk4 is that the recaro has a metal bar across the bottom of it, right where your rear passengers are trying to put there feet. Growing kids are finding it a bit of a struggle to for now
I'm considering chopping it in for a mk4 trophy at the moment, but it seems to be impossible to find a demo car off even a non trophy version
All this talk about the seats is interesting. Having had the standard seats, but now the recaro's I can say the standard seats hold you as well as the recaro's, but they don't look any where near as nice. One of the main reasons I'm considering a mk4 is that the recaro has a metal bar across the bottom of it, right where your rear passengers are trying to put there feet. Growing kids are finding it a bit of a struggle to for now
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