Renaultsport Megane Cup S 275
Discussion
gutbobs said:
I rarely even use the full 275bhp of sport mode on mine, day to day the 250bhp of normal mode is fine
Yeah I can go weeks without touching the sport button on mine. My point was that when I do get the hammer down, the power still feels more than adequate. I dare say driving to work I could get away with 100bhp
DoubleD said:
If you can cope with the looks, the civic is a better car.
Which generation Civic are you talking about?You have to remember that the 250 first launched in 2009 and was a superior driver to the then FN2, the FK2 and FK8 civic have obviously come much later and had much more development.
DoubleD said:
If you can cope with the looks, the civic is a better car.
No self respecting human being can like the looks of that car.They can persuade themselves that they are acceptable, as part of a purchase justification, but they’ll still never look back at their car and like what they see.
Can you get over the fact it has more than 3 doors?
CraigV6 said:
DoubleD said:
If you can cope with the looks, the civic is a better car.
No self respecting human being can like the looks of that car.They can persuade themselves that they are acceptable, as part of a purchase justification, but they’ll still never look back at their car and like what they see.
Can you get over the fact it has more than 3 doors?
DoubleD said:
If you can cope with the looks, the civic is a better car.
Bit of an unfair comparison (assuming you're talking about the FK8). 275 Meg is a £16k car, FK8 is £10k more. Do you get £10k more car with the FK8? I very much doubt it, but would love to see a proper review of the FK8 vs the 275. Most reviewers compare it to the mk4 meg unfortunately.The Meg is better looking but i will say in black the FK8 becomes very striking in a good way. Every other colour makes it look too Halfords.
Turbojuice said:
DoubleD said:
If you can cope with the looks, the civic is a better car.
Bit of an unfair comparison (assuming you're talking about the FK8). 275 Meg is a £16k car, FK8 is £10k more. Do you get £10k more car with the FK8? I very much doubt it, but would love to see a proper review of the FK8 vs the 275. Most reviewers compare it to the mk4 meg unfortunately.The Meg is better looking but i will say in black the FK8 becomes very striking in a good way. Every other colour makes it look too Halfords.
). Itsallicanafford said:
...the cup just keeps on keeping on...back to donnington Park for the first track day of the year this week...
Nice!My 275 Cup-S is approaching 3 years old and 25K miles now. Wonder what that first MOT will show!
Only money spent so far is on consumables. Many sets of Pilot Sports and brake pads over numerous track days, and it's still my daily drive.
Alex_6n2 said:
Itsallicanafford said:
...the cup just keeps on keeping on...back to donnington Park for the first track day of the year this week...
Nice!My 275 Cup-S is approaching 3 years old and 25K miles now. Wonder what that first MOT will show!
Only money spent so far is on consumables. Many sets of Pilot Sports and brake pads over numerous track days, and it's still my daily drive.
I do have a set of 888's on track wheels which i put in the back for dry days. Its been a good investment as i have only changed my front pilot sports once (18K miles). the 888's have one more day in them so 8 track days is not too bad (one of the spa days was mostly wet).
Itsallicanafford said:
Alex_6n2 said:
Itsallicanafford said:
...the cup just keeps on keeping on...back to donnington Park for the first track day of the year this week...
Nice!My 275 Cup-S is approaching 3 years old and 25K miles now. Wonder what that first MOT will show!
Only money spent so far is on consumables. Many sets of Pilot Sports and brake pads over numerous track days, and it's still my daily drive.
I do have a set of 888's on track wheels which i put in the back for dry days. Its been a good investment as i have only changed my front pilot sports once (18K miles). the 888's have one more day in them so 8 track days is not too bad (one of the spa days was mostly wet).
I had 888s on my R26.R and got through a front pair in a day on an airfield track day (think I was overdriving the car
)^ hello chap, I cannot comment on cup2’s having never used them but they seem to be the go to choice these days. After my first track day with the 888’s I was also pretty unimpressed as I thought I had melted them, but actually I just keep swapping front to back to scrub off the melted rubber and they have lasted well. Looks like they wear quite quickly initially and then settle down. I will be getting another set of 888’s
Picked up my new (to me) 275 Cup S on Friday. It's flame red, Recaros, Akra, Ohlins and Rs Monitor. I've had two RS Meganes before, but the spec on this one is just about perfect.
I bought it 'unseen' bar a couple of photos and a grainy video. Thankfully there weren't too many nasty surprises bar being a little shabby inside, low front pads and some terrible Arrowspeeds on the front.
It need a couple of bits sorting under warranty - an intermittent issue with the driver's side door not unlocking, and a strange on/off vibration when there's a bit of right-hand steering angle applied. It's almost like driving over a rumble strip. Ideas welcomed...?
First impressions - well, obviously it needed new tyres to get the best from it. I had some Michelin PS4S' fitted on Saturday.
I think the power to chassis is just about perfect. I'll probably not bother getting it mapped. Handling is superb - but it is a car you have to take control of. I've recently come out of a 4drive Cupra and they are absolutely chalk and cheese.
I was really, really interested to see what difference the Ohlins made, but initially it felt pretty much the same as a standard Cup. After a bit of a tinker yesterday, I realised they were in factory settings - so i've dialed them down the 10 (front) and 20 (rear), which is a bit firmer than their 'bumpy road' setting and the car is utterly transformed. They are absolutely mega - it now just glides over the worst roads without any apparent compromise to the handling.
From inside, the Akrapovic is much quieter than expected - or hard to hear over the road noise - and seems to need a lot of heat to really get going with the pops and bangs. I'm glad I didn't pay extra for it.
I was sorry to see my E92 M3 go in px, but perhaps more because of the disappointment I felt over the whole ownership experience. I'll miss having the big V8 and the performance it gave, but the Megane seems to fit both myself and the local back roads a lot better.
Sorry - no pics. Camera phone issues conspired against me.
I bought it 'unseen' bar a couple of photos and a grainy video. Thankfully there weren't too many nasty surprises bar being a little shabby inside, low front pads and some terrible Arrowspeeds on the front.
It need a couple of bits sorting under warranty - an intermittent issue with the driver's side door not unlocking, and a strange on/off vibration when there's a bit of right-hand steering angle applied. It's almost like driving over a rumble strip. Ideas welcomed...?
First impressions - well, obviously it needed new tyres to get the best from it. I had some Michelin PS4S' fitted on Saturday.
I think the power to chassis is just about perfect. I'll probably not bother getting it mapped. Handling is superb - but it is a car you have to take control of. I've recently come out of a 4drive Cupra and they are absolutely chalk and cheese.
I was really, really interested to see what difference the Ohlins made, but initially it felt pretty much the same as a standard Cup. After a bit of a tinker yesterday, I realised they were in factory settings - so i've dialed them down the 10 (front) and 20 (rear), which is a bit firmer than their 'bumpy road' setting and the car is utterly transformed. They are absolutely mega - it now just glides over the worst roads without any apparent compromise to the handling.
From inside, the Akrapovic is much quieter than expected - or hard to hear over the road noise - and seems to need a lot of heat to really get going with the pops and bangs. I'm glad I didn't pay extra for it.
I was sorry to see my E92 M3 go in px, but perhaps more because of the disappointment I felt over the whole ownership experience. I'll miss having the big V8 and the performance it gave, but the Megane seems to fit both myself and the local back roads a lot better.
Sorry - no pics. Camera phone issues conspired against me.
GrumpyTwig said:
How does it compare to the 4drive cupra out of interest?
Horses for courses etc.The 4Drive Cupra (estate and DSG only) gives you ridiculously easy performance - which might be damning it with faint praise, but that quality has significant merit as a quick family estate car. It demands very little from you, and rewards with all-weather, crackers pace. Comparisons with the S4 Avant is well made, imho.
It is a much more modern car in terms of engineering and experience. Ergonomics are spot on, although the optional bucket seats are too high and rock hard.
In comparison - where a Meg will dance down a road, and you have to keep a firm grip to stop the diff pulling you off track - the Cupra will just hammer down it, irrespective of undulations or weather. Point, squirt, brake...repeat ad infinitum...
The Cupra's steering (in the fast modes) is heavier but doesn't tell you much, the engine is completely linear - less lag, no real top end like the F4RT - but consequently doesn't feel as punchy as there isn't really a boost 'curve' that arrives. I would say though, that the VAG EA888 has the edge in performance, but there's no drama to it.
The adaptive suspension gives you the best of all worlds. I have has 2 x RS Meganes as daily drivers, but the Cupra is far more live-able in that regards. The Ohlins level the playing field a bit - but I have a 640d Gran Coupe for the boring stuff.
Overall, the Megane asks a lot of you - and rewards accordingly. The 4Drive asks nothing of you other than what speed do you want to go.
Truthfully, it was so easy to extract performance from the Cupra that I found myself going everywhere VERY quickly. But as a driver's car, the Megane is on a different planet. I'd rather be going 10% slower but having 70% more fun.
KPB1973 said:
GrumpyTwig said:
How does it compare to the 4drive cupra out of interest?
Horses for courses etc.The 4Drive Cupra (estate and DSG only) gives you ridiculously easy performance - which might be damning it with faint praise, but that quality has significant merit as a quick family estate car. It demands very little from you, and rewards with all-weather, crackers pace. Comparisons with the S4 Avant is well made, imho.
It is a much more modern car in terms of engineering and experience. Ergonomics are spot on, although the optional bucket seats are too high and rock hard.
In comparison - where a Meg will dance down a road, and you have to keep a firm grip to stop the diff pulling you off track - the Cupra will just hammer down it, irrespective of undulations or weather. Point, squirt, brake...repeat ad infinitum...
The Cupra's steering (in the fast modes) is heavier but doesn't tell you much, the engine is completely linear - less lag, no real top end like the F4RT - but consequently doesn't feel as punchy as there isn't really a boost 'curve' that arrives. I would say though, that the VAG EA888 has the edge in performance, but there's no drama to it.
The adaptive suspension gives you the best of all worlds. I have has 2 x RS Meganes as daily drivers, but the Cupra is far more live-able in that regards. The Ohlins level the playing field a bit - but I have a 640d Gran Coupe for the boring stuff.
Overall, the Megane asks a lot of you - and rewards accordingly. The 4Drive asks nothing of you other than what speed do you want to go.
Truthfully, it was so easy to extract performance from the Cupra that I found myself going everywhere VERY quickly. But as a driver's car, the Megane is on a different planet. I'd rather be going 10% slower but having 70% more fun.
Sounds pretty much as I expected and so as I've done the Renault thing now I still like the idea of the 4drive Seat tbh
Only thing is I doubt the Seat (like the Skoda) has anything like the front end grip the Megane has. Really miss that, even on the road.
GrumpyTwig said:
Interesting stuff. I moved from a remapped 250 to a Skoda Vrs Estate though really wanted the 4drive Seat as the Skoda suffer with traction.
Sounds pretty much as I expected and so as I've done the Renault thing now I still like the idea of the 4drive Seat tbh
Only thing is I doubt the Seat (like the Skoda) has anything like the front end grip the Megane has. Really miss that, even on the road.
Grip is fine - it just doesn't feel as 'pointy' or 'darty'. Ultimately it's a Haldex style 4WD, so it's a front-driver most of the time anyway.Sounds pretty much as I expected and so as I've done the Renault thing now I still like the idea of the 4drive Seat tbh
Only thing is I doubt the Seat (like the Skoda) has anything like the front end grip the Megane has. Really miss that, even on the road.
They're good cars though. I sold mine as I wanted something a bit more economical and luxurious for my daily. It also started smoking quite badly - although I put that down to the rubbish DTUK box I fitted to it.
That is another aspect though. The EA888 has a lot of headroom for mods, and responds very well to them too.
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