dipstick replacement R56 cooper

dipstick replacement R56 cooper

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crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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Trying to find an aftermarket dipper to replace the useless OEM thing.See that Craven did one but it’s £80 which seems overly expensive. Any leads please?

E-bmw

9,234 posts

153 months

Monday 12th August 2019
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I know R53 ones are everywhere as they were prone to snapping, is it the same issue with the R56?

I ask because they simply don't seem to be out there.

Henz

210 posts

103 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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They are irritating as the bulbous end seems to drag oil back up the tube giving false readings.
If you search on the North American Motoring forum there are some useful mods you can do to make it easier to read. I filed the end of mine flat on 2 sides and it now seems to do the job OK.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

244 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I’ve ordered the craven dipstick at £69.Expensive but hopefully less e pensive than running a. engine. It’s hard to believe that a car manufacturer could manage to balls up such a simple product devise

Drekly

758 posts

59 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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I agree its unfathomable, especially with clean oil. But then I came across this thread on minitorque and it put me off the Cravenspeed:

https://www.minitorque.com/forum/f544/cravenspeed-...

No idea if overblown or not.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

244 months

Tuesday 13th August 2019
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This dipstick elate has been going on for years apparently, still it’s not settled.AllI know is that the ORM dipper on our mini is completely hopeless, can’t read the oil level at all. Our new dee should be here next week so I will post back on my findings.

twokcc

832 posts

178 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Yes been sorted no problem with a duff dipstick on my 2018 cooper S no longer one on the 2.0th petrol engine it's electronic. That's one way of silencing all the complaints! !!

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

244 months

Thursday 15th August 2019
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My new ‘craven’ dipstick has arrived, tried it out and find it is very good at what it is supposed to be for.Engine oil level very easy to detect. Expensive to buy but worth every penny for piece of mind.
Why couldn’t BMW provide such a piece o equipment from the outset? Poor effort from them.

Pip1968

1,348 posts

205 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I bought one of the Cravenspeed ones too and then read all the scare stories on their version. I am happy with it so far.

I think you just need to re-adjust what you consider to be the full mark and the low mark on these. When I put them up against each other the dots on the Cravenspeed ones are slightly different from the OEM one.

You also need to look carefully if the oil is very clear and the light is poor when checking on these aftermarket dipsticks.

Pip

csd19

2,191 posts

118 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I replaced the original useless spiral wound metal POS with the one with the red nylon bottom section.



Best thing I did was file down the width of the lower section to remove the bulb shapes, now it reads the oil no problem biggrin

Vital on the N14 engines...

Henz

210 posts

103 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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csd19 said:
I replaced the original useless spiral wound metal POS with the one with the red nylon bottom section.



Best thing I did was file down the width of the lower section to remove the bulb shapes, now it reads the oil no problem biggrin

Vital on the N14 engines...
Yup I did the same and is now nice and easy. No idea why they didn't just do that!

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

244 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Henz said:
csd19 said:
I replaced the original useless spiral wound metal POS with the one with the red nylon bottom section.



Best thing I did was file down the width of the lower section to remove the bulb shapes, now it reads the oil no problem biggrin

Vital on the N14 engines...
Yup I did the same and is now nice and easy. No idea why they didn't just do that!
I’ve kept my old dipper, waiting to see how I get along with the new one I purchased. Not sure If I will
keep the mini atm, seems to much hassle with the thing.

Spingo

145 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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I have the same type as 'csd19' above - it's not the best, but what I find that helps is to spray some brake cleaner on the end of it and wipe it... it then goes very matt in appearance and after dipping again, the oil level is much easier to see.
It would help if it were a different colour though - something like yellow would help!

How can a car manufacturer get it so wrong?!!

Mr Peel

482 posts

123 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Drekly said:
I agree its unfathomable, especially with clean oil. But then I came across this thread on minitorque and it put me off the Cravenspeed:

https://www.minitorque.com/forum/f544/cravenspeed-...

No idea if overblown or not.
I'm confused.

That Minitorque thread seems to be about R53 Minis not R56s. Is the R53 dipstick as hard to read as the R56 one? Are both liable to snap or is it just the R53 one?

I struggle to read the oil level on my Countryman Cooper S (N18 engine) and it's worrying me...

Pip1968

1,348 posts

205 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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csd19 said:
I replaced the original useless spiral wound metal POS with the one with the red nylon bottom section.



Best thing I did was file down the width of the lower section to remove the bulb shapes, now it reads the oil no problem biggrin

Vital on the N14 engines...
Sorry, I am possibly being a bit thick here but do you mean you bought a completely different oil dipstick or you did some sort of Heath Robinson change of the end bit only to the red one shown - ??

Pip

Mr Peel

482 posts

123 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2019
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Just been reading about people who file the end of the dipstick.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/stock...

csd19

2,191 posts

118 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Pip1968 said:
csd19 said:
I replaced the original useless spiral wound metal POS with the one with the red nylon bottom section.



Best thing I did was file down the width of the lower section to remove the bulb shapes, now it reads the oil no problem biggrin

Vital on the N14 engines...
Sorry, I am possibly being a bit thick here but do you mean you bought a completely different oil dipstick or you did some sort of Heath Robinson change of the end bit only to the red one shown - ??

Pip
Sorry Pip, only just seen your reply.

When I got my R56 MCS it had a stock spiral wound metal dipstick, like a long spring if you like. This was a nightmare to read the oil level from so I bought the newer OEM disptick (one with the red nylon bit as above) then filed the lower bulb down until it was the same diameter as the section between the bulbs.

Heath Robinson? Nooooo.... just some fine workshop engineering thank you biggrin

Dift

1,622 posts

228 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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If you pull OEM dip stick out and leave it for 5 minutes before taking the reading the OEM item is perfectly acceptable.

The 5 minutes allows all the oil the dip stick has dragged up the dipstick tube to flow back into the engine, and makes reading the level easy.

Spingo

145 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Dift said:
If you pull OEM dip stick out and leave it for 5 minutes before taking the reading the OEM item is perfectly acceptable.

The 5 minutes allows all the oil the dip stick has dragged up the dipstick tube to flow back into the engine, and makes reading the level easy.
That sounds like a great tip (no pun intended) - will give it a try!

mikeswagon

702 posts

142 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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Dift said:
If you pull OEM dip stick out and leave it for 5 minutes before taking the reading the OEM item is perfectly acceptable.

The 5 minutes allows all the oil the dip stick has dragged up the dipstick tube to flow back into the engine, and makes reading the level easy.
How are you reading the level if the dipstick is already out? Does putting it back in not create the same supposed problem with dragging the oil? My morning caffeine hasn't really kicked in yet.....